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re: Is Houston considered a big sports market?

Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:17 pm to
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I would venture to say that the reason Houston isn't considered a big sports market, even though they are population wise, is because they are all 'new' teams. The Rockets don't fall in this category because they have had well known players and have won championships and have been around for awhile. The Texans are a relatively new team, plus the Oilers were loved so it took some time to get over them. The Astros are a lot like the Rangers, never could get a huge following until recently, except the Astros weren't able to keep up their success which killed their teams popularity.


Our owners have hurt the city quite a bit. Bud Adams was really terrible. The Oilers were loved by the city. They lost the NFL and then the Texans were awful for a decade.

The Rockets have been snake bitten in recent years with injuries but they have a good owner that is willing to spend money to win and The Dream is a god in Houston.

The Astros have had a pretty cheap owner that destroyed the farm system and put the franchise back years as he was looking to sell.

Overall it is a good sports town but there are a lot of Oil and Gas people not from Houston.

If you look anywhere, then you'll find big markets that don't love all of their teams. The Clippers and Dodgers have been a joke even though they're a big market. Winning does matter. Saints fans had bags on their heads not too long ago. The Dallas Mavs were a joke before Cuban. The Rangers were awful for years and not popular. Having owners like Jerry and Cuban has helped Dallas. Having Bud Adams and Uncle Drayton hasn't exactly helped Houston.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:26 pm to
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Message Posted by rondo The superdome is always rocking no matter what the saints record is.


Nooooooope.


He must not be from LA. Blackouts were a Sunday reality in the state for quite some time.
Posted by RandyVandy
Member since Nov 2011
954 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:42 pm to
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The Clippers and Dodgers have been a joke even though they're a big market




-6 World Series titles
-8 Cy Young's
-12 Rookie of the Year's
-World record for single game baseball attendance; the prior record was also held by the Dodgers
-Top 3 in cap sells since they started counting
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 7:43 pm
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:51 pm to
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-6 World Series titles -8 Cy Young's -12 Rookie of the Year's -World record for single game baseball attendance; the prior record was also held by the Dodgers -Top 3 in cap sells since they started counting


How many stabbings?

How many people cursing the McCourts?

What do you get when you combine all 40 Los Angeles Dodgers with 40 lesbians?

Eighty people that dont do dick!
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:54 pm to
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-6 World Series titles -8 Cy Young's -12 Rookie of the Year's -World record for single game baseball attendance; the prior record was also held by the Dodgers -Top 3 in cap sells since they started counting


You're right though, they do sell a lot of tickets. The ownership combined with the crowd they attracted was not what this franchise should have become. The owner was awful.
Posted by BRhuskyfan80
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
2915 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:02 pm to
I'm sure Houston is a very big soccer market.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:07 pm to
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I'm sure Houston is a very big soccer market.


It is hard to be that close to Mexico and have that many international oil and gas employees without having a strong soccer following. Obviously the Dynamo isn't a world class team, however the stadium is pretty nice and it is a good time.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:57 pm to
Not just as many non-Texan fans as Texan fans but if you go to a bar on Washington on a Sunday there's a huge minority of "other teams fans." That being said, I would bet if you went to any random bar (so like, not going to Legends in NYC) in any other large city you would see a similar result.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:00 pm to
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Not just as many non-Texan fans as Texan fans but if you go to a bar on Washington on a Sunday there's a huge minority of "other teams fans." That being said, I would bet if you went to any random bar (so like, not going to Legends in NYC) in any other large city you would see a similar result.



Houston is a huge college football town though. LSU, UT, Aggie are all huge. Losing the Oilers had a huge impact on pro football fans in the city.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19319 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:11 pm to
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The Dallas Mavs were a joke before Cuban


And still are (though with one title)

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The Rangers were awful for years and not popular


And we'll be back there in 2-3 years.

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Having owners like Jerry and Cuban has helped Dallas


Jerry
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:13 pm to
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Jerry


Between a bunch of championships and the best stadium on earth... he's done ok. He gets involved too much but it isn't like he's Donald Sterling.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 9:29 pm
Posted by BuckToothBilly
Member since May 2012
431 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:24 pm to
According to MLB, the Astros are a big market team (even if they aren't fielding big league talent). In 2014, they will no longer receive the revenue sharing that they have been getting -- thanks to the new collective bargaining agreement. The will be lumped in with the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, etc.
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