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re: Is Heavyweight Boxing Dead?

Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by Cool J
Crescent City
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:32 pm to
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but for $75, they better put together a bada$$ card
Especially for that price. They're already saying its going to be the biggest PPV of all time. Garcia vs Matthysse would be great.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:43 pm to
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This is his exact quote. He thinks there are thousand of people out there who could beat up top tier ufc talent (ie: Jon Jones)

Please remind me again why this is not a retarded argument and how I'm in the wrong? Don't you have some Serena Williams thread to start?


No reasonable non-retarded human beings interpret "top UFC talent" to mean "the best fighter in the game".

Also, good to hear I'm in your head.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:56 pm to
Is that why when making the comparison with boxing, he mentions Floyd Mayweather in the same breath? Keep trying.....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:02 pm to
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MMA because that's where the money is

You're stupid if you think mma fighters make more than boxers.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:03 pm to
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Is that why when making the comparison with boxing, he mentions Floyd Mayweather in the same breath? Keep trying.....


wtf are you talking about?
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:06 pm to
"In America yes. Vladimir Klitchko better than Tyson"

It literally amazes me how often I completely disagree with you on everything. You are so off on so many topics it is scary. I can also tell you're fairly young as well. Tyson on his worst day s###s all over Klitchko. Comparing the dominance and fame of Klitchko to Tyson is silly at best and clueless at worse.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:01 am to
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The Klitschkos should be huge over here....household names.


I'll preface my statement by mentioning that I haven't kept up with boxing for about 10 years, but I recall the Klitschko's being typical heartless European fighters who tend to fold in the face of adversity. I remember the Byrd, Lewis, Brewster, and Sanders fights. Along with other heartless or overrated Europeans in Andrew Golota, Herbie Hide and Frank Bruno, I don't think the American public is very interested in a division that's dominated by Europeans. The heavyweight division must be pure dreck if the Klitschkos are the dominant fighters.


Wow, looking at the Ring's ratings for the first time in 10 plus years, boxing in general has really changed.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:38 am to
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Comparing the dominance and fame of Klitchko to Tyson is silly at best and clueless at worse.
Who compared their fame?

And do some research Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant boxer ever by far.
- Never trailed on the cards at any point in any fight
-Never been knocked out
-Never even been knocked down
-Best KO ratio of any Heavyweight champion in the history of boxing
-2nd oldest heavyweight champion ever(not positive about this but pretty sure)

Oh and FYI Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko are not the same person
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:47 am
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7632 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:44 am to
It's been dead. Boxing itself is pretty much dead
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41158 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 4:00 am to
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It's been dead. Boxing itself is pretty much dead


It might be, but glad I was around to see these-


It's Hagler! Full of blood

Holyfield beats Bowe

Holyfield v Tyson II

Rahman over Lewis
Posted by The Gooch
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2009
1254 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:24 pm to
The issue is that all of our great physical specimens play football, basketball, baseball. All of potential heavyweight champs play def. end or middle linebacker in the NFL, play the 4 or 5 for a NBA team, or 1st base for a MLB team. As an example, Lebron James' measuables equate to Lennox Lewis. Hell Bryce Harper is bigger than Mike Tyson.......
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:46 pm to
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The issue is that all of our great physical specimens play football, basketball, baseball. All of potential heavyweight champs play def. end or middle linebacker in the NFL, play the 4 or 5 for a NBA team, or 1st base for a MLB team. As an example, Lebron James' measuables equate to Lennox Lewis. Hell Bryce Harper is bigger than Mike Tyson.......



Yup. Imagine Jadeveon Clowney as an up and coming boxer. If he were training for boxing instead of football, he'd be significantly leaner. Something like 6-6, 240. Vitali would have his hands full.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:49 pm to
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Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant boxer ever by far.


He types this. He does it again and again.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8048 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 1:14 pm to
Never fight a man with cauliflower ear..words to live by.

And also I agree with the Vitali > Tyson.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 1:17 pm to
Yes, heavyweight boxing is dead.

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