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Is Chipper Jones a 1st ballot Hall of Famer?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:06 pm
8x All Star
1999 MVP
1995 World Series Champion
2008 MLB batting Champion
468 HRs (33rd all time, 3rd most by a switch hitter)
2,726 hits
1,623 RBI
549 doubles
1999 MVP
1995 World Series Champion
2008 MLB batting Champion
468 HRs (33rd all time, 3rd most by a switch hitter)
2,726 hits
1,623 RBI
549 doubles
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:07 pm to Elleshoe
Yes.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:07 pm to Elleshoe
No.
It's the baseball HOF.
It's the baseball HOF.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:08 pm to Elleshoe
cmon. is this even debatable?
of course he is.
of course he is.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:08 pm to Elleshoe
I would say yes.
I think the moniker, "2nd best switch hitter of all time," makes him first ballot material.
I think the moniker, "2nd best switch hitter of all time," makes him first ballot material.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:11 pm to Elleshoe
He absolutely should be but who knows. He's on the same level if not better than Brett and Boggs who were first ballot. If I were betting on it I would say he is but there are some pretty incredible players who were not.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:12 pm to Elleshoe
for slaying trailer park poon? yes
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:13 pm to Elleshoe
No doubt.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:13 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Joe DiMaggio, Jimmie Foxx, Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford, Cy Young, Tris Speaker, Nap Lajoie, Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews, Roy Campanella and Harmon Killebrew all had to wait until at least their second ballot to be elected.
Chipper Jones ain't no Joe DiMaggio either.
Chipper Jones ain't no Joe DiMaggio either.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:17 pm to Elleshoe
Yes.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:18 pm to Elleshoe
Yes.
84.6 career fWAR- 32th best among position players
7 year stretch of 6 fWAR- finished top 11 in the MVP voting every year with one 1st place finish
Great career and elite peak.
84.6 career fWAR- 32th best among position players
7 year stretch of 6 fWAR- finished top 11 in the MVP voting every year with one 1st place finish
Great career and elite peak.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:20 pm to Elleshoe
If I was gambling on it, I'd bet he doesn't get in on his first ballot.
I fricking hate the guy, but he probably deserves to get in on his first ballot.
I fricking hate the guy, but he probably deserves to get in on his first ballot.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:20 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
He's easily the best of the first ballot guys up for 2018 so he shouldn't have a problem
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:21 pm to Elleshoe
Absolutely.
.300/.400/.500 club
MVP
Centerpiece of very successful team
Top 5 3B of all time (could make a case he is #6 I guess)
#2 Switch Hitter of all time
85 WAR
.300/.400/.500 club
MVP
Centerpiece of very successful team
Top 5 3B of all time (could make a case he is #6 I guess)
#2 Switch Hitter of all time
85 WAR
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:22 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Joe DiMaggio, Jimmie Foxx, Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford, Cy Young, Tris Speaker, Nap Lajoie, Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews, Roy Campanella and Harmon Killebrew all had to wait until at least their second ballot to be elected.
Chipper Jones ain't no Joe DiMaggio either.
On the other hand, John Smoltz got elected first ballot a few years ago.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:24 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Joe DiMaggio, Jimmie Foxx, Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford, Cy Young, Tris Speaker, Nap Lajoie, Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews, Roy Campanella and Harmon Killebrew all had to wait until at least their second ballot to be elected.
That is meaningless and says more about the asinine way the Baseball Writers handle this process than whether a player is deserving to go into the Hall. If you are a Hall of Famer then you are a Hall of Famer and there are no points deducted for how many years it takes you to get in.
Additionally, Cy Young, Tris Speaker, Nap Lajoie, Connie Mack, etc all got in in their 2nd year because the inaugural class was Cobb, Johnson, Ruth, Wagner, and Mathewson.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
all had to wait until at least their second ballot to be elected.
LINK
There wasn't a waiting period back then. Dimaggio actually recieved some votes before he even retired. The backlog of players before the HOF was created meant that a number of guys had to wait a few years to be inducted. Then the 5 year rule was implemented to help clear the backlog.
Chipper is definitely getting in on his 1st ballot.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:30 pm to VinegarStrokes
Musial, Ruth, Williams, Gehrig and Chipper Jones are the only players in Major League history to record at least 2,500 hits, 1,500 walks, 1,500 runs, 500 doubles, 450 home runs and 1,500 RBIs while hitting .300 with a .400 on-base percentage and .500 slugging percentage. He's also one of only two people ever to hit 300 from both sides of the plate. He's easily a 1st ballot guy
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:30 pm to Elleshoe
Without question.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:30 pm to VinegarStrokes
IT says everything about the baseball HOF.
So it's not meaningless.
This is not a debate about Chipper's qualifications.
It's a question, is he a 1st ballot - not by merit but by the baseball HOF.
They don't hand out 1st ballots like hub-caps.
It's usually, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Koufax, Mike Schmidt, Gywnn, Ripken, Ricky, Griffey, Ozzie.
I don't see the electors seeing Chipper Jones in that list.
So it's not meaningless.
This is not a debate about Chipper's qualifications.
It's a question, is he a 1st ballot - not by merit but by the baseball HOF.
They don't hand out 1st ballots like hub-caps.
It's usually, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Koufax, Mike Schmidt, Gywnn, Ripken, Ricky, Griffey, Ozzie.
I don't see the electors seeing Chipper Jones in that list.
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