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re: Is Cam Newton the Most Overated Player in the League Right Now?

Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:56 am to
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Let's say his team is down big similarly to how the Colts were in the game Monday night. Could Cam bring them back? I don't see it.

Can't believe you're about to make me defend Cam, but he did just that against Seattle, at Seattle.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:56 am to
It's the strength of their team because their only legit receiving threat is Greg Olsen.

Personally, I don't see the Panthers being able to keep this up. The running game is steady but it is by no means explosive like STL's.

Stewart is playing well but I don't see him being strong down the stretch. At this pace he's going to finish the season with a lot of carries, ASSUMING he even stays healthy on the back end of the season.

Unless Cam just goes nuts carrying the ball and making big plays on his own I honestly see Carolina burning out quickly.

That's just my take. Maybe I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 8:58 am
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:58 am to
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It's a black thing that he gets that attention.

If he were white, this would be a non issue or a complete joke.
(Tiptoes out of thread, hoping he has not been noticed)
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:03 am to
They were down by 6 in the 4th. Defense got stops on Seattle, who has really struggled offensively. They also have had a tendency to collapse in games this year for whatever reason.

That game winning drive was impressive, but it wasn't some huge comeback or a shootout type of game.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28725 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:06 am to
This thread is ridiculous. Cam has absolutely no receivers at all. Ive seen Ted Ginn drop a few wide open passes this season already that would have gone for touchdowns. He moves the ball and controls the clock. He does whats needed to win games.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:07 am to
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Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:10 am to
ESPN for one
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:12 am to
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Posted by KG5989
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:15 am to
Just google "Cam Newton MVP".

Lots of people and media outlets have him as a legit MVP contender.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:17 am to
7-0 as a starting QB this year, so no.
Posted by Abdul Mujib
Philadelphia
Member since Nov 2015
40 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:18 am to
Cam is a winner stop hating on him it's ridiculous. I'm not even a panthers fan.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:27 am to
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Floor is yours Cam lovers, let's hear it. Give me legitimate reasons why I should believe he is an MVP candidate, and why he will be the 2nd best QB in the NFC over the next 3-5 year


Why is that someone always has to accuse people with whom you disagree as being "lovers" or whatever nonsense, it undermines your argument as it makes it seem like you are just an irrational hater.

As to him being an MVP candidate, he is the QB on a 7-0 team that really doesn't have any other stars, not saying he will or should win, but if you don't see why he at least gets mentioned, then i don't know what to tell you.

As far as him being 2nd best to Rodgers over the next few year in the NFC, i never really thought about it, but that could just be by default. Looking around the NFC, you have older guys that will be gone by then most likly (Brees, Romo, Palmer, Eli?) and some young up comers like Winston and Bridgewater, the only other youngish guys still with some of their prime left besides Newton are Ryan and Stafford and then a bunch of garbage.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91648 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:27 am to
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Lots of people and media outlets have him as a legit MVP contender.
That's the thing, it's not just Carolina Panther fans or Cam Newton fans that think he is or should be in the MVP race...it's a lot of other people.

Also, the OP completely plays down Cam Newton's supporting cast and his running ability. Cam Newton's running ability opens up things for Jonathan Stewart. His passing game revolves around one player, Greg Olsen. Teddy Ginn Jr and Philly Brown would both be WR4s somewhere else. Tedd Ginn has not only dropped passes that would've been touchdowns, but he's also dropped passes that ended up being intercepted.

It's much more than just stats with this. Carolina is 7-0 thanks to Cam Newton and the defense.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:31 am to
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NFC South: Cam Newton, QB, Carolina Panthers

The Panthers' franchise quarterback is listed here not because of his numbers but because he's found a way to guide his team to a 7-0 start despite a supporting cast that includes only one Pro Bowl-caliber playmaker (tight end Greg Olsen) on the perimeter. Yes, the defense has also played a major role in Carolina's ascension to the ranks of the elite, but Newton's maturation has keyed the Panthers' dominance in the NFC South.
https://on.nfl.com/1RvV2nW

NFL.com's NFC South's MVP to date.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:32 am to
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He carries a putrid offense filled with below average NFL talent. No, I don't think he's overrated. Saints fan


This. No way that team should be 6-1 right now
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:33 am to
Oh boy, we're going to beat this topic to death once again...
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:33 am to
ISWYDT
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:35 am to
Cam literally has the same stats this year as Kaepernick and people still white night for him? Dude he sucks, without Carolinas defense they have 3 wins right now.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 9:36 am
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:36 am to
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:38 am to
Laugh now but wait a few years until your defense isn't as good and the Panthers will be what Seattle is this year. Except probably worse because Russell Wilson is better than Cam.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 9:39 am
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