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If the new LHSAA commissioner doesn't immediately fix the playoffs, he is a fool

Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:04 am
What a bunch of garbage. It is an absolute embarrassment. Louisiana does not need 9 state champions and some of the teams that are in the playoffs make this whole thing look foolish.

I was looking at the thread about the 0-10 team in Texas and decided to look at the LHSAA brackets.

The first team that comes to mind is E. Iberville. They drew the 23rd seed in the Class 1-A playoffs. There are 26 non-select teams that are Class 1-A. 24 teams make the playoffs and only 2 do not.

E. Iberville went 0-10 this year. They got outscored 522-24. They got beat in one game 80-6. Their reward? A 250 mile, 4-hour bus ride to Logansport to absorb what is likely to be one final, undeserved and uncalled for arse-whipping to end their year.

Let's think about the kids for just one minute here. How many of those kids at E. Iberville do you think really want to get on that bus and make that trip?
I feel bad for the kids. I am sure they want this season to just be over with so they can get on with the rest of their school year.

Northwood-Lena managed the 24th and final seed. They actually won a game and went 1-9. Gueydan got left out….they went 0-10. Tensas also got left out…they must really feel the pain for being left out since they actually won a game and E. Iberville didn't. How did E. Iberville get in? They played crappy 4-A team Belaire and that boosted their power ranking.

And how about this powerhouse matchup in the Class 1-A #16 vs. #17 game? You usually think these will be great match ups and I guess this one will be too. 3-7 Merryville will battle 3-7 Montgomery in what should be an epic playoff battle for the ages. The winner of that one gets to absorb a beating at the hands of Mangham in round 2.


The brackets are all littered with 1-9 and 2-8 teams. Pope John Paul, Westlake Christian, Redemptorist, Homer, and Winnfield are all 1-9 and I might have missed a couple.

It is a joke. It is obvious that it is a joke. The new commissioner needs to have enough sack to get all these people into one room and tell them they are not allowed to leave until they put their differences aside and figure this shite out.




TL, DR: The LHSAA playoffs are a joke. 0-10 and 1-9 should get you the rest of the winter off.
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:08 am to
Well considering the previous one had no choice and it was up to the schools to vote on...
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8063 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:08 am to
Broadmoor make it?
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17015 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:09 am to
It needs to be fixed NOW.

Splitting the public and private schools ruins high school football.

One would hope this is the last year of this awfulness.
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:10 am to
They need to make it so the schools can't vote on it (which I'm not sure is legal).

A bunch of the schools that John Curtis always beat up on got pissed and cried for reform
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61813 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:12 am to
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Let's think about the kids for just one minute here. How many of those kids at E. Iberville do you think really want to get on that bus and make that trip?


A) they get out of school, so yes, they'll be happy to take the trip
B) the football team will make money by splitting the gate, so the football coaches will be glad to buy a few more knee pads










But I'm not for the split, just being an a-hole to the OP's talking points
Posted by LST
Member since Jan 2007
16316 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:13 am to
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E. Iberville went 0-10 this year.



It's pretty awful. I could understand one or two select brackets for the 3-5A teams, but there are 0-10 1A schools in the 1A playoffs with Division IV teams with 5 and 6 wins sitting at home.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:14 am to
Broadmoor went 3-7 and didn't make it. They were actually in 5-A this year…and there are enough non-select 5-A teams to go around without having to put bad teams in the playoffs. I didn't realize they had that many students at Broadmoor now.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:15 am to
Every single one of those kids want the opportunity to play in a playoff game

I never got the chance in high school and would have loved the experience
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:18 am to
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But I'm not for the split, just being an a-hole to the OP's talking points


Your honesty about being an a-hole is refreshing.

But for real though, don't you think those E. Iberville kids are probably pretty beaten up both mentally and physically at this point? I think there comes a time where you are just ready to say enough is enough…let's end this instead of spending 8 hours round trip on crappy school buses to go play in the cold and lose by 50 again.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141093 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:18 am to
this was Kenny Henderson's dream... and he made it a reality

before this stupid split... in 5A you needed to be at least 5-5 to even think playoffs... now Division I, you start the season knowing you're already making the postseason

in essence... the regular season is nothing but a 10-game warm-up for the tournament
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:20 am to
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Every single one of those kids want the opportunity to play in a playoff game

I never got the chance in high school and would have loved the experience


Even if you knew you hadn't earned it and didn't deserve it? It all sounds very hollow to me.

And I am not knocking the kids at all…this is what they have been presented with and I hope they make the most out of it.


I think the bigger story here is that you have two 3-7 teams playing each other in the 16-17 seed game. That is almost the bigger joke.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:21 am to
To clarify, I agree with you that it is stupid

It needs to be more restrictive and selective

I was just saying the kids would love it no matter how they get there
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:26 am to
Gotcha. My big gripe is that in Class 1-A, why not shave it down to 16 teams? Why 24? Even the 16 seed sucks at 3-7. I guess $$$$ may be a factor, but still.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:29 am to
The rule I hate is making the top seeds travel. Byrd earned the right to stay in Shreveport and make teams come to them. They shouldn't have to travel across the state just because the 8 lost to the 24 in the second round, which they have zero control over.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:35 am to
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This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 11:35 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

The rule I hate is making the top seeds travel. Byrd earned the right to stay in Shreveport and make teams come to them. They shouldn't have to travel across the state just because the 8 lost to the 24 in the second round, which they have zero control over.


Agreed. I have always thought this was a bad rule…and it has been this way for at least as long as I have followed high school sports in Louisiana, and that is about 30 years. And it seems to be this way for ALL sports.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:40 am to
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Gotcha. My big gripe is that in Class 1-A, why not shave it down to 16 teams? Why 24? Even the 16 seed sucks at 3-7. I guess $$$$ may be a factor, but still.



In 1A poor district schools it makes no sense.

The 3 best buses are on the road to Shreveport.

You have a school day and half the kids won't show up.

You have to pay for subs for coaches and faculty who are leaving.

It's a colossal waste of time and resources, and the best case scenario is that the visiting team scores a touchdown and only loses 63-7.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33473 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:46 am to
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In 1A poor district schools it makes no sense.

The 3 best buses are on the road to Shreveport.

You have a school day and half the kids won't show up.

You have to pay for subs for coaches and faculty who are leaving.

It's a colossal waste of time and resources, and the best case scenario is that the visiting team scores a touchdown and only loses 63-7.


Oh I absolutely agree with you. An earlier poster said that it was all about splitting the gate and making money. I can't imagine the money that would be made from a 1-A football game in a small town would outweigh all of the factors you mentioned….monetary and collateral.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:57 am to
Could the LHSAA make record take priority over power ranking?

For example, use power as a tie-breaker between teams with identical records. Make sure a 4-6 team doesn't get a higher seed than a 6-4 team even if the 4-6 team power rating is better.

I don't know if it's a good idea or not. For example, Dutchtown has a losing record but played Rummel and Destrehan. They're probably better than a 7-3 5A team that played a garbage non-district schedule.
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