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re: If Pete Rose Only Bet On His Own Team
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:17 am to SystemsGo
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:17 am to SystemsGo
Wonder if anyone has ever went back and looked at the lines for the Reds on the time period and games he is accused of betting, and then see how he would have fared? Would be really interesting at the worst and could provide some clarity on the whole thing
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:19 am to TheOcean
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:20 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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quote: good but not great player lol
Pete Rose is not a great player. He was a very good player who played for an extremely long time. The stats back that up.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:20 am to StrongBackWeakMind
I'd say betting on your own team is much worse since you have much more control
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:22 am to STEVED00
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The Legend of Pete Rose far surpasses the actual player Pete Rose. Let's be honest, Pete was a very good but not great player.
Sure he is the career hits leader but he did it over 23 seasons. He played power positions (1st,3b,OF) with avg to below avg power and few SBs. he was an avg defender.
Just saying he achievements are more on the quantity side then the quality but baseball seems to reward quantity over quality. He should NOT even be in the same room with the all timers like Ruth, Mays, Gehrig, Gibson, Koufax, Bench, Gordon, etc
Are you seriously saying Pete Rose the player is not a hall of famer??
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:22 am to The Connoisseur
Honestly it would be difficult for a position player to do something to affect the outcone w/o it being blatantly obvious. It would be a lot easier for a coach to do it and it going unnoticed.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Are you seriously saying Pete Rose the player is not a hall of famer??
Where did I say that? His stats say he should be in the HOF gambling stuff aside. I am just saying he is in the middle tier at best HOF group and not an all time great. All HOFrs are not at the same level. Rose was not in nearly as good as the guys I mentioned.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:27 am to STEVED00
Agreed. But same logic of my question applies to him betting as a manager. If someone went back and looked at how he would have done betting on the Reds for X years it could help. If they were terrible and lost a lot more than won, one could argue he didn't always bet on his team.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:28 am to STEVED00
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Where did I say that?
Typically when someone says a player was "very good but not great" they are saying that said player isn't quite HOF material. I wanted to get clarification.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:28 am to TheOcean
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:30 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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But if you're betting on your team, you're still trying to win the game.
You're assuming wayyy too much if you think that. Baseball is a very long season. A manager could easily drop a game here or there on purpose in exchange for some serious cash (or in exchange for debts owed to others).
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 8:32 am
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
Personally I think baseball rewards quantity to much and quality not enough.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:32 am to STEVED00
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:33 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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But if you're betting on your team, you're still trying to win the game. There's doubt if you start betting on your opponen
Obviously betting to win is less bad but you still have ulterior motives for your decisions other than the best interest of your team.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:35 am to TheOcean
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:36 am to STEVED00
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Personally I think baseball rewards quantity to much and quality not enough.
I sort of get what you're saying but I also think you're underselling how hard it is to keep your game at a high enough level for 23 years so that you can rack up all those stats.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:36 am to STEVED00
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:39 am to TheOcean
quote:So you said the manager had more control over winning but here you are saying he can easily drop a game here and there, I'm confused.
A manager could easily drop a game here or there on purpose in exchange for some serious cash
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:40 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:That was answered on page 1. Managing is more about managing an entire season, not going for broke/all out to win 1 random game.
I don't understand. What are the ulterior motives if he's betting on his team to win?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
I agree that it's difficult to play at a high level for a long time. Plus there is some luck as far as injuries go.
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