re: If Pete Rose Only Bet On His Own Team

Switched up the terminology on myself.

So yeah, betting on your team is slightly better than betting on the other team. But it's also like 1a and 1b. Once you have a manager betting on games it's much easier for outside forces to control the games. It's a huge slippery slope because you don't know who else that manager could end influencing

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There is a reason they called him Charlie Hustle.

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Yeah, cause dude is a gambling addict that has been hustling people his entire life

The fact that his big red machine teammates don't like him at all also speaks for what kind of guy he is.

I think the biggest reason he wants in the HOF so bad and is he lobbying so hard for it is because he probably has some huge bet with a someone that he will be able to get into the Hall. Dude has some major cash riding on this

Yeah, that is very likely as well.

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The Legend of Pete Rose far surpasses the actual player Pete Rose. Let's be honest, Pete was a very good but not great player.

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Most career hits – 4,256
Most career outs – 10,328
Most career games played – 3,562
Most career at bats – 14,053
Most career singles – 3,215
Most career runs by a switch hitter – 2,165
Most career doubles by a switch hitter – 746
Most career walks by a switch hitter – 1,566
Most career total bases by a switch hitter – 5,752
Most seasons of 200 or more hits – 10 (shared)
Most consecutive seasons of 100 or more hits – 23
Most consecutive seasons with 600 or more at bats – 13 (1968–1980)
Most seasons with 600 at bats – 17
Most seasons with 150 or more games played – 17
Most seasons with 100 or more games played – 23
Record for playing in the most winning games – 1,972
Only player in major league history to play more than 500 games at five different positions – 1B (939), LF (671), 3B (634), 2B (628), RF (595)
Pete Rose was voted into the All-Star game at an incredible 5 different positions, which included 1B, 2B, 3B, LF & RF

National League records:

Most years played – 24
Most consecutive years played – 24
Most career runs – 2,165
Most career doubles – 746
Most career games with 5 or more hits – 10
Modern (post-1900) NL record for longest consecutive-game hitting streak NL – 44
Modern record for most consecutive hitting streaks of 20 or more games – 7

I'm sure you are correct those are the stats of an over rated player

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Dude the majority of those stats just confirm that he was a very good player who played for a bunch of yrs.

Not arguing anything. I said Pete Rose is not an all time great. I think his notoriety creates sort of a legendary figure.

He is a mid tier HOFr based on his on field performance. IMO, the fact that he is shady as frock is enough for me to be ok with him never be in the HOF.

I would definitely say he wasn't in the top 5 all time in any of the positions he played (maybe not even in the top ten).

Baseball is big on career quantity though. He played for a really long time at a high level and stayed very healthy.