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How's Clemson still ranked above Miami in Coaches Poll?

Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:46 pm
Miami is undefeated with a win over the team that beat Clemson.


Polls are dumb


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Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:47 pm to
If I was a coach I wouldn't take that poll. serious. I'd put Kansas #1 every week until they banned me or did away with the list.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Polls are dumb


Yet determine our four playoff contenders
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:49 pm to
Just noticed, Clemson moved ahead of Miami


WTF?
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:53 pm to
Clemson is a better team.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Clemson is a better team.


No.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32643 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:56 pm to
Coaches poll is a joke. But if you look at the points received Miami and Clemson are basically in a tie for 7th. They are separated by 1 point. I guess that means one voter moved Miami down one spot.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:57 pm to
not a popular opinion but the top 4 should be decided by computers

humans, lol, no thanks
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4499 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:04 pm to
For a better comparison-

How is Ohio State ranked above Oklahoma with the same record and a head-to-head loss at home?

How is Auburn with the same record ranked above LSU who beat them?

The problem is the order was decided before the season. Movement afterwards is based primarily on losses. While you can make an argument that the better teams improve as the season goes only, the primary reason losing early is better than losing late is because you have more time to move back up as teams in front of you lose.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33921 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:09 pm to
Clemson is a better team with a better resume period. If it wasn't for the zero next to their loss record, nobody would consider Miami to be a top 10 team. They don't have a signature win and they've looked uninspiring against very mediocre competition. They needed a TD in the dying seconds to beat a 2-4 Florida State team and a FG in the dying seconds to win against a Georgia Tech team that lost to Tennessee earlier this season. Meanwhile, Clemson beat a good Virginia Tech team handily in Blacksburg and also beat a good Auburn team as well.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88671 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:10 pm to
Wait, Miami dropped? Is there’s any explanation to this?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35441 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:10 pm to
Because Polls have been about feels.

No pollster is objective - it's all subjective...and pollsters go by preconceived ideas and notions and gut feelings.

And also, Miami does look like smoke and mirrors and Clemson looks like the better team if you actually watch them play.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:11 pm to
Miami keeps barely winning

proof that style points matter
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:12 pm to
So now Auburn is a good team again?


Come. Miami just beat the team that beat Clemson.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110665 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:13 pm to
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If it wasn't for the zero next to their loss record, nobody would consider Miami to be a top 10 team
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32643 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:17 pm to
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How is Auburn with the same record ranked above LSU who beat them?
The problem is the order was decided before the season.
Auburn's other loss was to Clemson. LSU has a loss to Troy and another loss to a decent team by 30 points. The LSU/Auburn game took place in BR and was very close. It's not that crazy for Auburn to be ranked ahead of LSU. Also, LSU was ranked ahead of Auburn in the preseason Coaches Poll.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:17 pm to
Who have they played? Don't understand why people are acting like Miami is that good.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33921 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:19 pm to
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So now Auburn is a good team again?


Come. Miami just beat the team that beat Clemson.


Auburn absolutely is a good team. They have an average point differential of 25 PPG against SEC competition this season. Two losses in brutally tough road environments shouldn't discount their entire resume.

As for Clemson, they had to travel nearly 1,000 miles on a short week. Pete Carroll and 2008 USC lost to Oregon State in similar circumstances. Clemson also lost their starting QB in the middle of the game. It was a fluky loss where a lot of things were against them.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:22 pm to
There's quite a few teams that I just don't take seriously in the top 10. When it's all said and done, it will be the usual suspects Bama, Clemson, Ohio state
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33921 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:24 pm to
Miami has a zero next to their loss record because they've played absolutely nobody. At least Wisconsin has dominated their garbage competition. Miami has struggled against their shitty competition. They remind me of that Mississippi State team that started the season 7-0 against terrible teams and finished the season with something like an 8-5 record. Miami won't fall that far because their second half schedule isn't as brutal as Mississippi State's was but they are not a top team by any means.
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