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re: Halladay likely to Phillies (MLB Network)
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:36 pm to LfcSU3520
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:36 pm to LfcSU3520
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A source told me that reports of Doc to the Phillies within the next 24 hours are inaccurate.
9 minutes ago from TweetDeck
MLBastian
Jordan Bastian
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No signs that Halladay scratched 2nite. But hearing #BlueJays considering #Phillies offer of RHP Drabek, 3B Donald, C Marson and OF Taylor.
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
ed_price
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Then again, told deal is "not close." Sigh.
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
ed_price
Ed Price
Happ + Drabek is a deal breaker, no way Philly does that
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:38 pm to 1ranter1
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He is 21, so he isn't playing above his level
actually he is. 23 is age appropriate for AA.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:39 pm to supatigah
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I think Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball bar none, but again he's somewhat of a rental player as it stands.
Well thats a long rental...They get him the rest of this yr and next. And will be the favorite to make it to the World Series both years.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:42 pm to 1ranter1
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I don't know. Nobody does.
Thats why you take the proven commodity..Whose been consistently one of the best pitchers for a period of time. U play to when the Championship when u have the chance. Halladay gives u the best chance this yr and next.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:44 pm to CM84
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And will be the favorite to make it to the World Series both years.
this amounts to nothing. not one damn thing.
They weren't the favorites last year and they won it. The Tigers were everyone's favorite and...?
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:44 pm to CM84
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Halladay gives u the best chance this yr and next.
he has never pitched in the post season FWIW
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:45 pm to CM84
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U play to when the Championship when u have the chance. Halladay gives u the best chance this yr and next.
why are you acting like they didn't just win a championship...without Halladay?
Not saying he doesn't help them, but trading everything for him doesn't make sense. Like I said, I just don't think I'd trade Happ.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:46 pm to geauxlsu07
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he has never pitched in the post season FWIW
ssssh. He's playing the hypothetical game.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:47 pm to LfcSU3520
I wish the Yankees would just give the Blue Jays 50 million for Halladay... thats what Boston gave for Dice K
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:47 pm to LfcSU3520
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why are you acting like they didn't just win a championship...without Halladay?
Not saying he doesn't help them, but trading everything for him doesn't make sense. Like I said, I just don't think I'd trade Happ.
do you really think that the phillies win it this year if they dont get him
i honestly dont think their pitching is good enough. now granted i know they said that last year, but still
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:48 pm to LfcSU3520
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ssssh. He's playing the hypothetical game.
my bad
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:48 pm to geauxlsu07
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he has never pitched in the post season FWIW
Neither has Happ..But we do know that Halladay is one of the most dominant pitchers in the league and u expect that to translate to playoffs..Granted pressure plays a role but I would rather take that chance than the chance that Happ might be better than Halladay in the future.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:49 pm to LfcSU3520
Not for a top, untradeable prospect
If you want to compare him to the top prospects that came up this season.
Drabek - 21 in AA - 6.14 K/9, 43% Ground ball rates, and a .251 avg against
Davis Price - 22 in AA - 8.7 SO/9, 57% ground ball rates, and a .206 Avg against
Trevor Cahill - 20 in AA - 8 SO/9 62% ground ball rates, and a .190 avg against
Brett Anderson - 20 in AA - 11 SO/9, 54% ground ball rates, and a .235 avg against
Tommy Hanson - 21 in AA - 10.5 SO/9, 40% ground ball rate, and a .197 avg against
Drabek's number's arent even comparable. Again he is a very good prospect, but not as good as some are making him out to be.
If you want to compare him to the top prospects that came up this season.
Drabek - 21 in AA - 6.14 K/9, 43% Ground ball rates, and a .251 avg against
Davis Price - 22 in AA - 8.7 SO/9, 57% ground ball rates, and a .206 Avg against
Trevor Cahill - 20 in AA - 8 SO/9 62% ground ball rates, and a .190 avg against
Brett Anderson - 20 in AA - 11 SO/9, 54% ground ball rates, and a .235 avg against
Tommy Hanson - 21 in AA - 10.5 SO/9, 40% ground ball rate, and a .197 avg against
Drabek's number's arent even comparable. Again he is a very good prospect, but not as good as some are making him out to be.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:49 pm to CM84
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and u expect that to translate to playoffs.
so you would have Halliday and a so so Hamels...then what? Moyer? Blanton?
2 man rotation?
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:51 pm to Ron Mexico
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i honestly dont think their pitching is good enough. now granted i know they said that last year, but still
but still what?
you just refuted your point in the same sentence.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:52 pm to geauxlsu07
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2 man rotation
's win in the postseason
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:52 pm to geauxlsu07
I'd trade Happ, for sure. Happ, Drabek, and a few other good prospects... I don't know about that.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:53 pm to 1ranter1
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1ranter1
the hell are you on about? I said that they should definitely open to trading him.
I also said using minor league numbers to judge anything is pointless. Trust me.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:53 pm to LfcSU3520
no i didnt
their pitching was actually better last year imo
moyer will not get it done in the playoffs, he just wont
rodrigo lopez, doubtful
happ is a stud no doubt, but hes still a rook
i just think if they made the play and got him, they would be awesome
if im the phillies, i try to move carrasco and drabek and the catcher
their pitching was actually better last year imo
moyer will not get it done in the playoffs, he just wont
rodrigo lopez, doubtful
happ is a stud no doubt, but hes still a rook
i just think if they made the play and got him, they would be awesome
if im the phillies, i try to move carrasco and drabek and the catcher
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:54 pm to Ron Mexico
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's win in the postseason
so you are saying Halladay and Hamels would be the next Johnson and Schilling?
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