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re: Greg Hardy suspended 10 games

Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:38 pm to
In this situation it sounds like the victim just went off the grid.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:38 pm to
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He's lucky to still have a job. Period.


Why can't people have dialogue about complicated issues

Most things are not cut and dry like you want. There's a lot of layers to this

Everyone in the NFL is "lucky" to have a job. That's irrelevant to the conversation
Posted by jg8623
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:39 pm to
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quote: So is that what happened to Ray rice and all other couples who decide not to pursue charges? You can't just say I don't want to press charges?

Pretty sure the state can still pursue charges even without charges from the abused spouse They are less likely to because it's harder to convict.


Gotcha, they just made it sound like the girl made a choice not to and that was the end of it
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22728 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:42 pm to
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If he was suspended for the charge and the outcome of the trial didn't matter, why was he paid a years salary and put on the commish list all year? If the outcome didn't matter he should've been automatically suspended

I don't get the holding pattern they put him in for, in their words was in honor of due process, if the outcome of the trial was not significant


I agree totally. But this is the NFL. Nothing they do makes sense sometimes. From the "bounty" shite, to Ray Rice, to AP, and now this. There is nothing consistent about what they do or how they see things. Its really stupid for an organization this big to be this all over the place.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:42 pm to
She definitely made a choice not to cooperate but it's complicated. The DA has some options but it seems he didn't press it in this case.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:43 pm to
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In this situation it sounds like the victim just went off the grid.



He paid her to not show up
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:44 pm to
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He paid her to not show up

Oh I thought she just got caught up at Disneyworld.

No shite.

ETA: Pardon the smartass remark. Little testy today.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:44 pm to
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You're obviously not familiar with the details of the situation.

Actually, I am. Living in Dallas you would have to avoid live TV altogether to not be somewhat familiar with the situation.

And once again I say - 10 games (plus last seasons suspension) for a guy who isnt even going to be charged - is absurd.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21035 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:45 pm to
Oh. Ok. He beats the shite out of his SO (more than once), gets suspended with pay, the state drops the charges because SO refuses to cooperate and he gets to keep his job?

You're right. It's not luck. It's bullshite. Who else would get to keep their job after shite like that happens? But he's a great player so screw it.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Member since Sep 2008
13944 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:46 pm to
I don't really care if Hardy ever plays again but the league is drunk when it comes to dishing out punishment and continually makes or revises the rules as it goes. Goodell just tarnishes the credibility of the shield more and more each day.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:47 pm to
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Who else would get to keep their job after shite like that happens?
If you're good at what you do, shitloads of people.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21035 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:47 pm to
And I wouldnt have much of a problem with this except the NFL just said they believe he hit her more than once.

WTF
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:50 pm to
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Actually, I am. Living in Dallas you would have to avoid live TV altogether to not be somewhat familiar with the situation. And once again I say - 10 games (plus last seasons suspension) for a guy who isnt even going to be charged - is absurd.


You should be mad at the judicial system, not the people saying that the NFL is overstepping and over zealous in their arbitrary punishment system
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14657 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:51 pm to
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ProFootballTalk: Whether Peterson, Hardy, or anyone else, the fair punishment after paid leave is to give credit for games missed and impose a large fine.


Gotta say I agree with Florio here. Paid leave is, in fact, an actual punishment for players.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29447 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:54 pm to
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Gotta say I agree with Florio here. Paid leave is, in fact, an actual punishment for players.



That's how I've felt also. He already sat out all last year. He's served missed time. Make him pay a fine for 6 game checks or whatever and let him play. In no way do I condone what he did, but he's basically sitting out 26 games now for this incident
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:54 pm to
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You should be mad at the judicial system, not the people saying that the NFL is overstepping and over zealous in their arbitrary punishment system




Or, maybe place some blame on the woman who was the alleged victim yet refused to cooperate. She has SOME blame in this - I dont care what he paid her. Cops cant exactly do their job without victim cooperation usually.

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:55 pm to
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he's basically sitting out 26 games now for this incident



He would be doing 26 years in prison for this if he wasn't a rich athlete that had the money to pay the broad off.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:58 pm to
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Or, maybe place some blame on the woman who was the alleged victim yet refused to cooperate. She has SOME blame in this - I dont care what he paid her. Cops cant exactly do their job without victim cooperation usually.


Qfr
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:59 pm to
Greg Hardy is paying for Ray Rice's punch. Thanks Goodell.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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21035 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:59 pm to
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