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re: Greg Hardy suspended 10 games
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:56 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:56 pm to wildtigercat93
He paid her off to not cooperate with the authorities. For you guys saying no suspension because the charges were dropped, is THAT the precedent you want to set?
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:58 pm to boosiebadazz
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He paid her off to not cooperate with the authorities. For you guys saying no suspension because the charges were dropped, is THAT the precedent you want to set?
Once again, you do not need the victim to cooperate to push forward with charges.
Also, can you provide any kind of proof that she was paid off to go away?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 4:59 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:There would be less objection to the suspension if he hadn't spent an entire season on the exempt list.
For you guys saying no suspension because the charges were dropped, is THAT the precedent you want to set?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 5:02 pm to boosiebadazz
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He paid her off to not cooperate with the authorities. For you guys saying no suspension because the charges were dropped, is THAT the precedent you want to set?
It's better than the alternative
Point is, have punishments that make sense and follow a certain policy that is stated under the CBA.
If guys are suspended just for getting charges brought against them, then so be it if the NFLPA agrees to it. But don't talk on one side of your mouth about respecting due process and putting them on paid leave, and then come back after the case is resolved and he is not found guilty or charged and completely ignore the ruling and then suspend him again
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 4/22/15 at 5:04 pm to FlappingPierre
If he was a Giant or a Patriot, it'd be 4 games max.
Just sayin'
Just sayin'
Posted on 4/22/15 at 5:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If he was a Giant or a Patriot, it'd be 4 games max. Just sayin'
Well he was a free agent this year. He should've signed with one of those teams then if that were the case.
"Just sayin"
Posted on 4/22/15 at 5:07 pm to Dr RC
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Once again, you do not need the victim to cooperate to push forward with charges.
You're right, but the DA still needs the victim to corroborate and put on a case. He felt he couldn't do that without her.
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Also, can you provide any kind of proof that she was paid off to go away?
Yeah, a civil suit was filed and it was settled with a confidentiality agreement.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 5:09 pm to boosiebadazz
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You're right, but the DA still needs the victim to corroborate and put on a case. He felt he couldn't do that without her.
Well yea, that tends to happen when the person claiming to be the victim can't keep their story straight.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 7:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
Exactly. I thought it was awful strange Dallas had so many early season division games this year. I can't remember them having that many division games that early in the season cause the NFL likes to make Dallas go play in cold weather in December.
Anyway everybody in here does know that Hardy is the one that called 911 right?
Just because you are accused of something doesn't mean you actually did the crime.
Anyway everybody in here does know that Hardy is the one that called 911 right?
Just because you are accused of something doesn't mean you actually did the crime.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:40 pm to RemouladeSawce
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Already missed last year, charges eventually dropped, 10 more games?
Hope the PA goes ham.
Pretty sure he still got paid last year. Maybe if he returned the game checks then the NFL would count that as the suspension.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:41 pm to FlappingPierre
Boy am I REALLY glad the Raiders passed on him now
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:46 pm to boom roasted
Wtf is almost of this "alleged" talk? People are acting like Hardy was caught in a witch hunt.
He was charged AND found guilty in July 2014. North Carolina allows you to appeal to a jury trial. The victim could not be located for the new trial, so the whole damn thing was nullified, but you're incompetent if you think this dude was innocent or the facts aren't readily available.
He was charged AND found guilty in July 2014. North Carolina allows you to appeal to a jury trial. The victim could not be located for the new trial, so the whole damn thing was nullified, but you're incompetent if you think this dude was innocent or the facts aren't readily available.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:57 pm to boom roasted
You've been testy for awhile now. It's okay, we're here for you
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:58 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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Exactly. I thought it was awful strange Dallas had so many early season division games this year. I can't remember them having that many division games that early in the season cause the NFL likes to make Dallas go play in cold weather in December.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:16 am to whatiknowsofar
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Oh. Ok. He beats the shite out of his SO (more than once), gets suspended with pay, the state drops the charges because SO refuses to cooperate and he gets to keep his job? You're right. It's not luck. It's bullshite. Who else would get to keep their job after shite like that happens? But he's a great player so screw it.
I wish people would stop comparing NFL players to every day people. Their job is not similar at all to any of ours.
They are more comparable to rock stars. Who regularly do excess drugs and beat wives and still people buy their records.
These are entertainers, not accountants.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:23 am to TexasTiger1185
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According to Clarence E. Hill, Jr. of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the union is considering filing a lawsuit on Hardy’s behalf. Given the preliminary success of the lawsuit filed last year by Vikings running back Adrian Peterson after his suspension, it’s no surprise.
Peterson’s victory arose from the league’s effort to apply the new personal conduct policy to behavior that occurred before the rule changed.
In Hardy’s case, the NFL has tried to avoid that argument by claiming Hardy’s suspension arises under the prior policy and procedure. Commissioner Roger Goodell could take plenty of steam out of a Hardy lawsuit by appointing a neutral arbitrator to handle the in-house appeal.
While he’s usually disinclined to surrender the power to designate a hearing officer, Goodell could be tempted to consider stepping aside, given the decision issued by a neutral arbitrator in the Ray Rice appeal last November. Despite overturning Rice’s indefinite suspension because it amounted to a second punishment, Judge Barbara Jones concluded that an indefinite suspension would have been justified as an initial punishment under the league’s prior approach to domestic violence cases.
With the NFL carefully pointing out in Hardy’s case that the new standard for domestic violence cases isn’t being applied retroactively to Hardy (even if it is), there’s a chance an arbitrator will endorse the 10-game suspension as something that would have been imposed absent the seismic shift that occurred after the Rice video emerged the day after the first Sunday of the 2014 regular season.
As noted by Hill, the NFLPA also could argue that the league improperly divided one incident into four specific actions, with discipline imposed separately for the various portions of one overall violation. Regardless of how and where and when it plays out, the NFLPA is confident that a string of legal victories in the bounty scandal, the Rice case, and the Peterson case will extend to Hardy. Not that the NFL cares; as noted Thursday, the league seems to be much more concerned about avoiding the P.R. fallout of not going far enough than the courthouse consequences of going too far.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:42 am to FlappingPierre
Isn't the new policy for domestic violence 1st offenses supposed to be a 6 game suspension?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:44 am to SaintEB
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They, supposedly, have pics from the case and show multiple instances where he hurt her.
But yet they could never get that darn ray rice video
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:51 am to TigerintheNO
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His base is only $750K, but his incentives are $1.84 mil per game he is active.
So....you are saying he will make over 30 mil this year if he gets to play in all games?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:36 am to wildtigercat93
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Commissioner Roger Goodell could take plenty of steam out of a Hardy lawsuit by appointing a neutral arbitrator to handle the in-house appeal.
I think Goodell's ego is too big for this, but his lawyers have to be advising him to do it given their recent losses in court.
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