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re: Good ways to end "Hack-a-Shaq"...

Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
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So should teams have this option for the entire game?


Outside of two minutes at the very least.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
More rules isn't the answer.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
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See how easy that is?


how are the Spurs being rewarded? They are penalized with a foul call, and the other team goes to the line with what should be free points.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
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they are penalized. A player is awarded a foul.


Then what are the FTs designed to do?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Then what are the FTs designed to do?




reward the person who got fouled
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84755 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:03 pm to
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how are the Spurs being rewarded?


Oh c'mon, if the Spurs weren't benefiting from the strategy, they wouldn't be employing it in the first place.

I truly find it comical that so many people are vehemently against giving the team the option to decline FTs. It is the simplest solution and makes the most sense.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:04 pm to
i love how people act like it hasnt been used against the Spurs before
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:05 pm to
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I truly find it comical that so many people are vehemently against giving the team the option to decline FTs. It is the simplest solution and makes the most sense.


I just don't to like create new rules to cater to a very small minority. That goes for all aspects of life.
Posted by TallMan
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:06 pm to
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they are penalized. A player is awarded a foul.


The point of penalties in sports is to deter an action with as un-severe of consequences as possible. As it is now, the penalty is obviously not enough of a deterrent since this is still happening, and the proposed fix successfully deters it without adding additional unneeded penalties on the fouling team.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:06 pm to
This thread makes me feel like I am taking crazy pills. I cannot believe how many people really want to change the rules when the current rules are perfect.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84755 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
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reward the person who got fouled


Would you have a problem allowing the team to decline the FTs and keep the ball instead?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42492 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
So let's say a team is down 3 at the end of the game, and is fouling to try and get the ball back. Does the team that got fouled have the option to decline FTs then?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:09 pm to
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The point of penalties in sports is to deter an action with as un-severe of consequences as possible. As it is now, the penalty is obviously not enough of a deterrent since this is still happening, and the proposed fix successfully deters it without adding additional unneeded penalties on the fouling team.




You can't really look at it like that. The player still gets 2 FT's. To assume the absolute worst is not fair to the rule.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278263 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:10 pm to
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Would you have a problem allowing the team to decline the FTs and keep the ball instead?




I have a problem if they change the rule, but should they change it, that is not a terrible option.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:10 pm to
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i love how people act like it hasnt been used against the Spurs before


This

Go back to game 1 of the 2003 Western Conference Finals. Spurs vs. Mavs.

Spurs were running the Mavs out of the building, then Don Nelson employed hack-a-Bruce Bowen. Destroyed SA's momentum, and the Mavs came back and won that game.

Teams used to foul Duncan, too. And OKC made no bones about hacking Splitter a few years ago. Guess what?

All three of those guys doubled down on their ft's and teams went away from the strategy against SA.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84755 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:11 pm to
Oh I've seen it done to the Spurs before, but I simply used them since this thread has focused on the Spurs/Rockets.

This "catering to the minority" is comical since this shite has happened to every team in the league at some level.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:15 pm to
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This "catering to the minority" is comical since this shite has happened to every team in the league at some level.


You're missing the point.

"Catering to the minority" refers to the low number of NBA players who struggle so mightily from the line that the hacking strategy is effective, not necessarily a specific team.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:16 pm to
If tigerdroppings was around when the 3 point line was implemented this board would have going insane

"What the hell are we doing!!!! Give an extra point for making a long shot????!!!! This is such a reflection on society today giving people extra crap!!!!!"
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:17 pm to
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So let's say a team is down 3 at the end of the game, and is fouling to try and get the ball back. Does the team that got fouled have the option to decline FTs then?


No...the foul isn't being committed off the ball.
Posted by TallMan
Member since Jul 2014
360 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:18 pm to
But what's wrong with them giving the team the choice if they feel like the FTs aren't enough of a penalty and their alternative is to just continiing playing the sport? Declining the FTs and playing basketball instead obviously isn't too severe of a penalty. (I like freedom and choice as long as I'm not unduly imposing on others in all walks of life...)
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