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re: Good ways to end "Hack-a-Shaq"...
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:59 am to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:59 am to Dawgsontop34
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I meant that Latino guys for the most part are even less likely to be picked at a local YMCA game than a white American.
Gimme Manu Ginobili, Pablo Prigioni, Leandro Barbosa, Louis Scola, and Fabricio Oberto any day tho
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:01 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Gotcha. I think you have said you go to church out there and he is super into church and goes to a large one so I thought you might know him, he was my best friend growing up.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:01 pm to slackster
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Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to adding the option to decline free throws at any time in the game, including on-ball fouls at the end of the game. It would do a wonder for the game IMO
I just have no words...
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:02 pm to Dawgsontop34
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It's really not that hard. I can not play basketball for a year, and then go practice for 1 day and shoot at least 75%. I just don't get it.
Sure, that is the exact same situation as DeAndre Jordan or Shaq.
"I can do it, so I don't understand why it is hard" is the equivalent of people who excel at math belittling those who simply do not get it. Despite all the practice and study that is put in, some people cannot improve their situation past a certain level. To borrow a line from half of the post in this thread, it is really not that hard to understand.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:05 pm to RTR America
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I just have no words...
I know that proposal is never going to fly, but the idea in the OP is would be a welcomed improvement.
As I stated earlier, the fouling at the end of an NBA game is pretty tough to watch - both the hack-a-player and the fouling from teams trying to come back. It is almost unrecognizable compared to other 45 minutes.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:07 pm to slackster
It is the timeouts and reviews that make it last forever. It doesn't take long to shoot free throws.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:10 pm to PrimeTime Money
Where is the professional integrity.
If I'm Blake griffin, I'd be in Jordan's shite. Blake was able to improve his from 58% to 70% with practice focus and dedication.
Maybe his teammates should hold him to a higher standard
If I'm Blake griffin, I'd be in Jordan's shite. Blake was able to improve his from 58% to 70% with practice focus and dedication.
Maybe his teammates should hold him to a higher standard
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:11 pm to RTR America
If he could make 65 to 70% of his free throws this series would be 2-1 right now
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:11 pm to slackster
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Despite all the practice and study that is put in, some people cannot improve their situation past a certain level.
Then their worth as a player should be diminished and reflected in limited playing time in those situations. Simple as that.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:14 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Agreed. But Is Jordan past the point of improvement? Has he peaked as a free throw shooter? Where is his pride? I would feel like I was letting my whole team down
I feel like he would make 80% of his free throws in an open gym.
I feel like he would make 80% of his free throws in an open gym.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:20 pm to RTR America
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Again no one is asking these guys to shoot 80%. Just make over 50%.
Fixing something that isn't broken because of a few guys is a terrible policy.
Making something better at the expense of literally nothing is not a terrible policy. What a silly statement. You're better than that.
And having Andre Igoudala frantically running away from people like he's in a schoolyard game of tag with 2:08 left in a close playoff basketball game is most certainly broken. Surely you see how silly that looks. Why should a team essentially be rewarded for bashing in to players while making no attempt to play actual defense? I don’t see why forcing teams to actually attempt to play defense during a basketball game is getting so much argument. Why do so many people demand players shoot free throws better but no one demands teams just play better defense? Make rules to make basketball be played the way it was meant to be played. Leave the "if it ain't terribly broke, don't fix it" crap to old people that lack critical thinking skills.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:20 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Then their worth as a player should be diminished and reflected in limited playing time in those situations. Simple as that.
That is fine, but I don't know if that solution is best for the NBA going forward.
Perhaps I'm in the minority, and despite the result, I'm glad the Pelicans did not foul Curry at the end of game 3. Was it the best strategy? Of course not, but it is a perfect example of when the most advantageous decision is also a decision that takes away from the integrity of the game.
Being down by 3 with the ball and 10 seconds left should not be an automatic loss if the team fouls you, regardless of whether or not it is a legal decision.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:21 pm to StrongSafety
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Is Jordan past the point of improvement? Has he peaked as a free throw shooter?
His year at A&M was my freshman year. Balled with him at the rec every now and then. Always had the athleticism, but NEVER the free throw shooting. Yes, he worked on it. A lot. But for whatever reason, he just can't cut it at the line on a consistent basis.
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I feel like he would make 80% of his free throws in an open gym.
I suppose. If he got hot. It's probably a head case with him at this point, too.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:22 pm to TallMan
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Why should a team essentially be rewarded for bashing in to players while making no attempt to play actual defense? I don’t see why forcing teams to actually attempt to play defense during a basketball game is getting so much argument. Why do so many people demand players shoot free throws better but no one demands teams just play better defense? Make rules to make basketball be played the way it was meant to be played. Leave the "if it ain't terribly broke, don't fix it" crap to old people that lack critical thinking skills.
Well said.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:24 pm to slackster
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I don't know if that solution is best for the NBA going forward.
Altering the rules of the game to coddle the few who can't hack it at a basic principle of the game isn't a good solution, either.
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despite the result, I'm glad the Pelicans did not foul Curry at the end of game 3. Was it the best strategy? Of course not, but it is a perfect example of when the most advantageous decision is also a decision that takes away from the integrity of the game.
How would the integrity of the game have been impugned, exactly? If anything, NOT fouling and employing the best strategy by so doing damaged the integrity of the Pels' understanding of the game.
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Being down by 3 with the ball and 10 seconds left should not be an automatic loss if the team fouls you, regardless of whether or not it is a legal decision.
I vehemently disagree.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:25 pm to lsu480
quote:The NBA is definitely struggling to keep black guys playing their sport!!
If they do it is BS just to keep the same high % of black players that they have now.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:26 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:+1
It's about a loophole in the rules that makes the game hard to watch. No fan likes it.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:28 pm to slackster
You just figure out the form that works the best for you and go with it. Shaq wasn't willing to even try underhanded free throws because it would hurt his pride. You shouldn't change the game because a couple guys are prideful IMO. The rule isn't fun to watch, but I get it. If you have a weakness and your game and there's a place to exploit it you shouldn't be able to eliminate that. I mean, I wish we could sub out Dirk on every defensive possession but that idea isn't going to fly.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:28 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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How would the integrity of the game have been impugned, exactly?
See the post a few spots above yours.
The NBA is entertainment. What is more entertaining, the end of the 4th qtr in Game 3 for Pels/Warriors, or watching Curry shoot two free throws and lose by 1?
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:30 pm to slackster
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The NBA is entertainment. What is more entertaining, the end of the 4th qtr in Game 3 for Pels/Warriors, or watching Curry shoot two free throws and lose by 1?
That is a matter of personal preference, not an issue of the integrity of the game.
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