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re: Does Penn State get left out if they beat Wisconsin?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:08 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:08 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Last year had significance because we were passed over with only 1 loss due to SOS --this year it's not the case and they won't pass over OSU twice.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:11 pm to Buckeye06
Meh, it was still REALLY important. The more I look at the schedules, the more I think OSU should only get in if PSU gets in.
I'll have to go back and look, but they will have wins over the #1 team in the west. Beat the shite out of the #3 team. And beat OSU. Won their division. And the conference.
Basically it's OSU's win over OU vs that stuff up there. And the Oklahoma win, I mean, was it THAT good(at the time they might have sucked arse) that we ignore PSU getting it freakin' done when they had to?
PSU lost early and has 8 wins in a row. Beat OSU. Blew out Iowa(who beat Mich). Also blew out MSU who OSU severely struggled with.
shite, OSU almost lost to Wisconsin? If PSU beats them convincingly, I think PSU just might get in this thing.
I'll have to go back and look, but they will have wins over the #1 team in the west. Beat the shite out of the #3 team. And beat OSU. Won their division. And the conference.
Basically it's OSU's win over OU vs that stuff up there. And the Oklahoma win, I mean, was it THAT good(at the time they might have sucked arse) that we ignore PSU getting it freakin' done when they had to?
PSU lost early and has 8 wins in a row. Beat OSU. Blew out Iowa(who beat Mich). Also blew out MSU who OSU severely struggled with.
shite, OSU almost lost to Wisconsin? If PSU beats them convincingly, I think PSU just might get in this thing.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:17 pm to Wayne Campbell
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quote:
Ohio State
I think the committee will want to avoid opening Pandora's box by putting in a non-conference champion over their conference champion who beat them in the regular season. It gets a little bit less messy if Wisconsin wins because Ohio State beat Wisconsin.
This is the best answer possible.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:54 pm to gobuxgo5
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Last year had significance because we were passed over with only 1 loss due to SOS --this year it's not the case and they won't pass over OSU twice.
I disagree on last year having any impact on this year's selections. And that's not how you set it up in your original post. You provided OSU's record the past two years as a reason they should get in this year.
And hey, if you want to make the playoff this year, you simply cannot drop a home game to MSU that late in the season in 2015. Killed your chances this year in my opinion.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:30 pm to gobuxgo5
If the roles were reversed and Ohio State won the Big 10 with 2 losses and got left out for a Penn State team with a so called "better resume" that they actually beat, not one Ohio State fan would be pushing this hard for Penn State to get in...none...zilch...nada!
That's how I know their argument is flawed and biased.
That's how I know their argument is flawed and biased.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:40 pm to MrBiriwa
A so called better resume
Am I alive?
Am I alive?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:41 pm to MrBiriwa
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If the roles were reversed and Ohio State won the Big 10 with 2 losses and got left out for a Penn State team with a so called "better resume"
The melt from the state of Ohio would be unreal.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:46 pm to MrBiriwa
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not one Ohio State fan would be pushing this hard for Penn State to get in...none...zilch...nada!
It is surprising that I am pushing harder for my team to get in than another team? Wow
quote:Everyone on here has a natural bias on most subjects they argue for...doesn't mean they are incorrect. It sure as hell doesn't automatically make their argument flawed.
That's how I know their argument is flawed and biased
Is this real life?
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:51 pm to Damone
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Penn State should, due to whole child-rape coverup thing.
Because the staff and kids that worked their arses off to be playing for a conference championship Saturday deserve to be punished for the horrid behavior of past coaches?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:51 pm to Klendathu
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Winning a conference should not matter more than losing to an unranked team, getting blown out by 39, and not having as many quality wins as another team.
Then whats the point of having a conference championship game?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:00 pm to rocket31
quote:After this week, depending on how PSU does against Wisc, OSU's resumè won't be much better than PSU's.
A so called better resume
And damn sure nit enough to trump the head to head, division, and conference titles.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:04 pm to gobuxgo5
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The arguments for OSU:
1- Better record- Will potentially have the same number of wins come Sunday
2- better SOS while keeping a better record- Marginally
3- beat big ten west champ on the road coming off bye. See point #1, though a road win is marginally better than a neutral site win.
4- beat b12 champ on road in OOC- There's this game saturday that decides the B12 champion, if OU loses then they are just a 3 loss team who lost to the #6 team in a G5 conference.
5- better overall ranking Seasons not over
6- BCS #2 ranking See point #5
7- didn't lose by 39 points to Michigan Just needed a home game, a hurt QB, UM not to convert in the redzone, some gift calls, and 2OTs to squeak one out against them.
8- beat the current 5th 6th and 7th ranked teams PSU beat the 2nd rank team
9- only loss came from a top 10 opponent away where PSU was coming off a bye And?
10- just beat the #3 ranked team See point #7
11- didnt lose to Pittsburgh Then Clemson shouldn't go either if they win the ACC?!
12- already best the conference champion opponent on the road But lost to the division champion
13- has only lost 2 games in last 2 years 23-2 And? Don't lose conference games then complain.
14- tied for conference east champs To the team that beat you
15- it's obvious they are better Except for when they played...Does that not count?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:04 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Blew out Iowa(who beat Mich)
So Penn State beat a team that had a victory over a team that blew them the frick out. So that Michigan 39 point loss shouldn't even count!!!!
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:05 pm to ReauxlTide222
Agree with that somewhat, especially if Okie Lite handles Oklahoma.
I said this in another thread, but if the committee doesn't value the CCG much, Mich has some damn good arguments if Wash or Clemson go down and OSU gets in. They've already beaten Wiscy/PSU/Colo and have a 1 pt road loss on a last sec FG and a double OT road loss to the team most people believe is the best in the B1G.
I said this in another thread, but if the committee doesn't value the CCG much, Mich has some damn good arguments if Wash or Clemson go down and OSU gets in. They've already beaten Wiscy/PSU/Colo and have a 1 pt road loss on a last sec FG and a double OT road loss to the team most people believe is the best in the B1G.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
it doesn't matter.
None of the Big 10 teams can hang with Alabama
None of the Big 10 teams can hang with Alabama
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:09 pm to KillerNut9
quote:Didn't say anything shouldn't count. But PSU's resumè isn't even CLOSE to being so poor that it trumps the win over OSU, division, and conference.
So Penn State beat a team that had a victory over a team that blew them the frick out. So that Michigan 39 point loss shouldn't even count!!!!
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:09 pm to rondo
Yeah, if Bama is going to steamroll anyway, I don't really give a frick. Mich can't beat them with a pro style, though I think they could make the game ugly and low scoring like LSU did. Clemson and OSU are the only real shots to make the playoffs interesting.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:I agree. It'd take some work, but I agree.
I said this in another thread, but if the committee doesn't value the CCG much, Mich has some damn good arguments if Wash or Clemson go down and OSU gets in. They've already beaten Wiscy/PSU/Colo and have a 1 pt road loss on a last sec FG and a double OT road loss to the team most people believe is the best in the B1G.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:14 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:I think Michigan would almost 100% keep the game close, but just not be able to score enough to win.
Yeah, if Bama is going to steamroll anyway, I don't really give a frick. Mich can't beat them with a pro style, though I think they could make the game ugly and low scoring like LSU did. Clemson and OSU are the only real shots to make the playoffs interesting.
I could see Alabama blowing out OSU. And I could also see OSU getting a win.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:59 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Because the staff and kids that worked their arses off to be playing for a conference championship Saturday deserve to be punished for the horrid behavior of past coaches?
Are you suggesting that they forfeit games played 20 years ago? Because that would really punish them
The whole point is to make it hurt and have that impact be a deterrent. I think they should still have reduced scholarships. They should have gotten the damn death penalty, given the people involved that knew about it within the organization.
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