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re: Did the Carolina Panthers have the shortest championship window in NFL history?

Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:22 am to
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:22 am to
They'll live and die by their front 7.

Cam is too inconsistent. He get widely in accurate at times, and will completely be a non-factor in games for long stretches. I got tagged team on twitter last night about this from TT and diddydirtyaubie, and they were like "he improved all 3 years" and "3-1 against the Saints the past 2 years."

First off, if you look at his career numbers, they're very similar, except his passing attempts have gone down each year. Has he improved? Yes. Is he remarkably better than his rookie year? No. The biggest factor to his success has been the vast improvement of the defense, which has one of the best front 7's in the league.

Secondly, congratulations on sweeping the Saints in 2012. That's quite a feet.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 6:24 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:27 am to
They had the advantage of playing the NFC west last year who played to their strengths.

I'm interested in seeing how their D fares against the NFC North's passing attack
Posted by TigerSaints318
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:13 am to
Interesting that playing the NFC West is an advantage. That's a tough division. I can't wait to see Roman Harper back there in coverage though.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:15 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:17 am to
The Patriots-Saints game and Patriots-Carolina game both fricked the Saints hard
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:18 am to
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Interesting that playing the NFC West is an advantage. That's a tough division. I can't wait to see Roman Harper back there in coverage though.



Well both teams had to play the NFC West. I would consider the NFC West offenses to be run oriented, and that is the strength of the Panthers. The Saints pass defense was its strength

They also didn't have to play @Seattle on MNF with Seattle coming off a bye week.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:34 am to
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Jcorye1




Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:38 am to
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Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:44 am to
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They also didn't have to play @Seattle on MNF with Seattle coming off a bye week.


but we still lost to Seattle in week one so the results against the Seahawks had little bearing on who won the south

Posted by ChallboiMatt
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:45 am to
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but we still lost to Seattle in week one so the results against the Seahawks had little bearing on who won the south


Why let facts get in the way of a good narrative?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:45 am to
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but we still lost to Seattle in week one so the results against the Seahawks had little bearing on who won the south



Except that we may have beaten them in the Dome...

quote:

Why let facts get in the way of a good narrative?



So SEA on the road = SEA at home?

You realize that the Saints had a stronger SOS than the Panthers
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 11:49 am
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Jcorye1


still can't handle the fact Cam outplayed Brady

LINK
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:48 am to
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Except that we may have beaten them in the Dome...


and you barely beat the 49ers at home, and we had to play them on the road

maybe the Saints would've lost to them had they played in San Fran

ifs, ifs, ifs
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:50 am to
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2009 Vikings
yep
Posted by ChallboiMatt
Geechee land
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:51 am to
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and you barely beat the 49ers at home, and we had to play them on the road

maybe the Saints would've lost to them had they played in San Fran

ifs, ifs, ifs


but, but buutttt.... thats different!

These Saints fans are a fricking riot A$AP.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:52 am to
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maybe the Saints would've lost to them had they played in San Fran



We may have. That is a much more winnable game IMO.

You're also ignoring my entire point of that original post
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:53 am to
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but, but buutttt.... thats different!

These Saints fans are a fricking riot A$AP.


quote:

ChallboiMatt



Are you going to add anything or just continue to be a child?

The Saints had the #10 SoS last year. The Panthers had the #17 SoS last year. I'm sorry you can't grasp that FACT.
Posted by ChallboiMatt
Geechee land
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:57 am to
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Are you going to add anything or just continue to be a child?



Whatever dude. I'm not the one making excuses for a loss and saying it would've been completely different had the game been played elsewhere.
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:59 am to
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You realize that the Saints had a stronger SOS than the Panthers


yes, because you guys had to play the Cowboys and Bears, two 8-8 teams, while we played the Giants and Vikings

you also realize we won against the two teams not on each other's schedule so this fact also wouldn't change how the South ended up

oh, and facing the Panthers and their 12 wins increases your SOS slightly over us playing 11 win Saints

sorry we couldn't play ourselves
Posted by Nonetheless
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:59 am to
Are the panthers really that significantly worse off at WR this year in comparison to last year?

I don't think the difference is that substantial.
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