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re: Did Michael Jordan insult Cowherd's momma?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:07 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:07 am to Chad504boy
i think dee brown won it in 1992. big star there
lebron has worked on his game to compete against the NBA today and has become a unique player in the history of the NBA
he literally does everything at a high level now. you don't do that without competing and working at your game
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Lebron needs it bad cause he's a bag of pocket pussies in this fan's opinion cause he was too scared to compete. Ah, the word compete.... it's a great word when you chew on it.
lebron has worked on his game to compete against the NBA today and has become a unique player in the history of the NBA
he literally does everything at a high level now. you don't do that without competing and working at your game
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Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:08 am to Ford Frenzy
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If LeBron wins 5 NBA finals MVP awards I will change my tune, do you think that will happen?
i don't know how his team will hold up over the next 5 years. that it outside of his control so it's unfair to judge him on this
same with titles
titles = team stats
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:the cop out, I knew it would come
i don't know how his team will hold up over the next 5 years. that it outside of his control so it's unfair to judge him on this
the guy is playing with 2 fricking all-stars and Olympians, he better win every year he is with them
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:10 am to yankeelover
Anyone in here saying that Nike made Jordan what he is has no clue. The Nike ads were hugely successful BECAUSE MJ backed it up on the court. There have been many players given superstar endorsements that weren't able to meet expectations and they faded away and out of sight.
Dan and Dave were going to take the 1988 (or 1992) Olympics by storm.
Larry Johnson had great commercials.
Michelle Wie has millions in endorsement dollars.
Dale Earnhart, Jr. had quite the hype machine behind him.
At the end of the day, an athlete has got to produce where it counts to reach "all-time great" status. No media hype can do that for a player.
Dan and Dave were going to take the 1988 (or 1992) Olympics by storm.
Larry Johnson had great commercials.
Michelle Wie has millions in endorsement dollars.
Dale Earnhart, Jr. had quite the hype machine behind him.
At the end of the day, an athlete has got to produce where it counts to reach "all-time great" status. No media hype can do that for a player.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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lebron has worked on his game to compete against the NBA today and has become a unique player in the history of the NBA
congrats on the uniqueness? Back to an Michael Jordan comparison now.
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you don't do that without competing and working at your game
congrats on the will of competing just not that of the level of competing that all time greats had in the blood of their veins.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:13 am to Ford Frenzy
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If LeBron wins 5 NBA finals MVP awards I will change my tune, do you think that will happen?
I don't pretend to know the future. I do know that 2 years before Jordan ever won a title there were many people who said he would never win one. That his style of play wasn't conducive to winning championships. No one thought he'd go on the tear he did. 2 years people said the same thing about LeBron. Point is nobody knows the future. And putting artificial limits on what someone can achieve seems silly.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:15 am to Ford Frenzy
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the cop out, I knew it would come
how is the truth a cop out?
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the guy is playing with 2 fricking all-stars and Olympians, he better win every year he is with them
there are other really good teams too, you know
no NBA player has ever won a title without help
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
you must be bored, i have no idea how you can consistently engage in debates with these delusionists 
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:17 am to Chad504boy
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congrats on the uniqueness? Back to an Michael Jordan comparison now.
why didn't jordan work on his all around game in the same way? it is a jordan comparison
lebron does some shite better than jordan
jordan some some shite better than lebron
they're not the same type of player
it's like comparing magic to jordan
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congrats on the will of competing just not that of the level of competing that all time greats had in the blood of their veins.
can you define this?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:18 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:yea that didn't stop Jordan from winning NBA finals MVP 6 times
there are other really good teams too, you know
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:30 am to yankeelover
Being an original > being a better version of an original
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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why didn't jordan work on his all around game in the same way?
I didn't get the memo he didn't. Maybe he was busy being the greatest?
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can you define this?
i can, not sure you can.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:31 am to Ford Frenzy
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yea that didn't stop Jordan from winning NBA finals MVP 6 times
and if pippen got hurt for a year, the bulls' failure to make the finals would be jordan's fault?
see how stupid that is?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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if jordan had to deal with the media that we have today, there wouldn't have been an MJ
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that is stupid
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:31 am to Chad504boy
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i can, not sure you can.
give me an objective definition of "having the blood in their veins" please, and if you could, list all the NBA players who had this for me
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:34 am to yankeelover
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than Jordan will be forgotten
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
The old, if you can't quantify with a statistic it doesn't exist argument.
I'm guessing you 28 years old or younger.
This is primarily a generational dispute (or maybe just a contrarian one). People that were able to experience the fullness of Jordan's career (and the hype that accompanied it) and those that didn't.
I'm guessing you 28 years old or younger.
This is primarily a generational dispute (or maybe just a contrarian one). People that were able to experience the fullness of Jordan's career (and the hype that accompanied it) and those that didn't.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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give me an objective definition of "having the blood in their veins" please, and if you could, list all the NBA players who had this for me
I don't recall Lebron ever playing Lock Down D in an All Star game. I always remember Kobe and I remember MJ. Its in their blood. I can't give you their blood but if you can get a hold of some, run some analytical tests and shite, it'll show up.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:37 am to WDE24
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The old, if you can't quantify with a statistic it doesn't exist argument.
it's a lot better than the "my gut feel and subjective beliefs prove this is right" argument every time
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I'm guessing you 28 years old or younger.
nope. i remember jordan's 6 titles, esp the last 3
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This is primarily a generational dispute (or maybe just a contrarian one). People that were able to experience the fullness of Jordan's career (and the hype that accompanied it) and those that didn't.
and jordan had the same shite with magic until he retired the first time, basically
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:38 am to Chad504boy
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I don't recall Lebron ever playing Lock Down D in an All Star game.
well frick
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