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re: DAT 5/10: Braves (Garcia) vs. Astros (Musgrove), 1:10 CDT

Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:24 am to
Posted by JLock
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:24 am to
I miss JD
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:

How did you Houston fans survive 2009-2014?

Asking for a friend.


Aside from following the prospects like others said, taking pleasure in young guys or underrated/scrap heap guys that get called up and exceed expectations.

Keuchel for instance was viewed as back of the rotation guy and was pretty pedestrian in 2012/2013.

Watching him on 2014 when the Astros still sucked was awesome and now he's at the top of their rotation as contenders. Marwin Gonzalez is another example, viewed as a stopgap utility guy and now he's an extremely important part of this team. It's neat to see what guys get to do with an opportunity they might not have received elsewhere
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:27 am to
Also most of the city couldn't even watch the games
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:27 am to
Yeah that was awful
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:28 am to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:29 am to
I forgot about CSN Houston

That's when I stumbled upon unlocator.


What a disastrous time for the Houston Astros all the way around.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:49 am to
Luhnow on 790 this morning talking Devo, rest days, a little McHugh, and how the trade market may shape up this year. Basically hints that everyone wants Kyle Tucker and we have no desire to trade him.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25132 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:23 pm to
Saw this in a Fangraphs chat today..

quote:

How did Alex Bregman lose his ability to hit more flyballs than groundballs?


Answer:

quote:

As Tony noted in his offseason write-up, Bregman’s 2016 batted ball profile was a mess, and suggested it wouldn’t work long term. Seems pretty likely the Astros saw that too and are helping him try to make adjustments that will work better over the long run.


I cant find the article detailing his batted ball profile, but thought it was interesting.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:31 pm to
He is coming around, .804 OPS during his 10 game hit streak. But yeah I'd be interested to know what about his batted ball profile was a mess last year.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:37 pm to
Found it:

quote:

Then there’s Alex Bregman. His profile here, put bluntly, is a mess. He doesn’t impact his grounders, at all, and almost always pulls them. He hit .154 AVG-.179 SLG (44 Unadjusted Contact Score) on the ground, and was assessed an excessive-pulling penalty. His traditional 2016 numbers were propped up by an unsustainably high liner rate. His pop-up rate was high, and his fly-ball rate has nowhere to go but down. Bregman significantly outperformed his exit-speed and -angle data on fly balls (121 Unadjusted vs. 66 Adjusted Contact Score) and liners (142 vs. 104). His raw numbers suggest a ready-for-prime-time player; digging deeper calls that status into question. He looks like a power-before-hit guy who hasn’t developed much power just yet.


LINK
Posted by malvin
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:47 pm to
Is that josh Beckett on the pregame show?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:51 pm to
I'm sorry, but for me that's paralysis by analysis.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:58 pm to
True. I am sure Fangraphs wrote a ton about Yonder Alonso never having a chance to be a legit starting first baseman with the bat. Sure it took time, but talented hitters can make adjustments.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25132 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:59 pm to
There is a lot there for sure, but it makes sense.

He got a lot of pitches he could drive last year, and that was essentially what drove his AVG/SLG.

Now it seems like he's stuck when to hit the ball in the air and when to hit it on the ground. Since he's hitting more balls on the ground (that he doesn't hit very hard) and getting less liners/Flyballs his AVG/SLG is down.
Posted by Snoopy04
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

How did you Houston fans survive 2009-2014?


Posted by Rjlebla
Houma
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
Boy musgrove needed that.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76656 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:20 pm to
Lucky. Same old problems for him right away. Can't get strike three nearly enough.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69602 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:20 pm to
Inciarte had absolutely no chance there
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:21 pm to
Also, this new in-market streaming is absolutely incredible.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9545 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Can't get strike three nearly enough.

Recovered well though. I'm president of the Joe Musgrove fan club if anyone wasn't aware.
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