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re: Comprehensive Greatest of All Time in these sports

Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:53 pm to
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I think Gretzky is the GOAT, but I wouldn't say it's undeniable because one could make an argument for Mario Lemieux. At his peak he had a higher PPG than Gretzky, but unfortunately health issues took some years off his prime. Gretzky was able to stay healthy which is definitely a point in his favor, but skill wise Lemieux was right there with him


I'd throw Bobby Orr in the discussion as well. Changed the way hockey was played by defencemen. Won the Art Ross which is nuts. 8 Norris trophies in the 9 full years he played
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:06 pm to
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think Gretzky is the GOAT, but I wouldn't say it's undeniable because one could make an argument for Mario Lemieux. At his peak he had a higher PPG than Gretzky


Untrue. Mario's best PPG season 2.67 and his second best was 2.62. third was 2.30. These were not consecutive season. In fact, he had a PPG above 2.0 six times with the longest consecutive stretch being three years.

Gretzky, in his 9 years in Edmonton, averaged 2.40 PPG. He had a PPG above 2.0 ten times, and he did it in nine consecutive seasons. His best PPG season was 2.77, 2nd best was 2.69, and 3rd was 2.65. In fact, he had five season with a PPG above 2.40, one short of the number of 2.0 PPG season Mario had.

Gretzky had a better and longer peak, he also had a better and longer career. Gretzky was clearly the better player.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:08 pm to
Lionel Messi is the best soccer player of all time.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18418 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:08 pm to
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Boxing - Joe Louis

That would be Ray Robinson
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7509 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:33 pm to
Football Jim Brown
Baseball (offense) Babe Ruth
Baseball (pitcher) Pedro
Basketball MJ
Boxing Sugar Ray Robinson
Track and Field Kaitlin Jenner.
Swimming Phelps
Tennis djokovich
Golf Bobby Jones (from his first major victory, through his last, he won 50% of the professional majors he played in, From 1922-1930, he finished first or second in the U.S. Open 8 times, with a still record 4 victories. He played in a total of four Bristish opens and won 3 of them. No one has ever been as "relatively dominant" vs. their era in golf. Not even close.
Hockey Gretzky
Soccer no clue
Bowling
NASCAR
Indy Car
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:26 am to
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Maybe Gretzky yeah. But I still don't understand how Jordan is a lock over Bill Russell.


Umm, maybe because Bill Russell lacked, you know, offensive skills. Just a thought.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:26 am to
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People saying Bolt are truly ignorant of Track&Field


No
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9474 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:45 am to
Football - Tom Brady (Off.), Lawrence Taylor (Def.)
Baseball (offense) - Willie Mays
Baseball (pitcher) - Mariano Rivera
Basketball - Michael Jordan
Boxing - Floyd Mayweather
Track and Field - Carl Lewis or Jim Thorpe
Swimming - Michael Phelps
Tennis - Roger Federer
Golf - Jack Nicklaus
Hockey - Wayne Gretzky
Soccer - Pele or Messi
Bowling - No clue
NASCAR - Richard Petty
Indy Car - AJ Foyt
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:34 pm to
Football - Barry Sanders
Baseball (offense) - Ruth or Mays
Baseball (pitcher) - Cy Young
Basketball - Jordan
Boxing - Ali
Track and Field - Thorpe or Bolt
Swimming - Phelps
Tennis - Roger Federer
Golf - Jack
Hockey - Gretzky
Soccer - Pele
Bowling - No clue
NASCAR - Petty
Indy Car - No clue
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:50 pm to
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Lionel Messi is the best soccer player of all time.


It's amazing that it took two pages for someone to say Messi.

Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175802 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:53 pm to
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Football - Randy Moss Baseball (offense) - Ken Griffey Jr Baseball (pitcher) - Sandy Koufax Basketball - Michael Jordan Boxing - who cares Track and Field - Usain Bolt Swimming - Michael Phelps Tennis - John McEnroe Golf - Tiger Woods Hockey - Wayne Gretzky Soccer - Alex Morgan Bowling - Jeff Lebowski NASCAR - Ricky Bobby Indy Car - Danica Patrick
you eat at Applebee's don't you ?
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:04 pm to
Football - Jim Brown
Baseball (offense) - Willie Mays
Baseball (pitcher) - Cy Young
Basketball- Jordan
Boxing - Ali
Track and Field- Jesse Owens
Swimming - Phelps
Tennis - Federer
Golf - Jack
Hockey - Gretsky
Soccer - Pele
Bowling - Earl Anthony
NASCAR - Earnhardt
Indy Car - A. J. Foyt

Agreed with you for the most part.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:08 pm to
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I pretty much agree with your list, except I would go with Ali in boxing.

Ali probably did more for the sport and was one of the original greats when it came to sports marketing and promotion, but Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest boxer that ever lived.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:55 pm to
Jim Brown
Willie Mays
Greyzky
Pele
Jordan
Dick Weber
Rod Laver
Jesse Owens
Richard Petty
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54079 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Golf - Jack Nicklaus


How is it even debatable?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41178 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 4:13 pm to
Football - Jerry Rice
Baseball (offense) - Babe Ruth
Baseball (pitcher) - Walter Johnson
Basketball- M Jordan
Boxing - Sugar Ray Robinson
Track and Field- Jim Thorpe
Swimming - Phelps
Tennis - Federer
Golf - Nicklaus
Hockey - Gretsky
Soccer - Pele
Bowling - Roy Munson
NASCAR - Richard Petty
Indy Car - A. J. Foyt

Don't understand how someone could pick Cy Young over Walter Johnson.
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