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re: Colin Cowherd says Mayweather vs McGregor will happen
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:54 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:54 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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In MMA you get a truer fight than boxing in regards to striking. You don't have a ref to constantly separate you to the perfect distance and you don't have gigantic gloves to help protect you. It's much easier to defend in boxing when you only have to worry about punches. There are no elbows,knees, or kicks to have to watch out for. It's also nice to have your lead leg forward and not worry about someone kicking it and taking all your power and movement away. Yes in boxing you will see incredible hands, but in a true fight a boxers striking will look much much worse.
Of course.
But then you have an MMA guy - who hasn't spent his entire life relying on protective rules just learning the art of boxing (which this board seems to undervalue) - and get him in a ring where he can't use anything but his limited striking ability in a controlled boxing ring against a mediocre pro who spent his life snapping jabs and working only on speed.
Lets not act like the protective environment allows him to open up...the opposite, he gets exposed.
I just don't see it. I'd be shocked if McGregor could beat a tomato can boxer let alone a top-tier boxer - because even a tomato can has learned the trade and paid the dues and knows the nuances of the sport...and works all day on jab speed and connecting just with hands....that is his sport. Boxing isn't McGregor's sport as a pro...he doesn't work all day connecting just with his hands...in a boxing manner...boxing gloves, rules...movement, etc.
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:05 pm to ctiger69
quote:no, it's because boxing has been around for 100+ years longer than mma. And do you even Deontay Wilder bro?
There is a reason why great boxers make so much more money than MMA fighters. Because they are the best at boxing and it takes 20 years of training and 50 fights (amateur and pro) boxing to be on the elite level.
quote:pretty sure McGregor has been sparring with quality boxers for a while now. Pretty publicized how he's been training with that South African boxer here recently.
Honestly, the first time McGregor spares with a pure boxer he would back out of this Floyd fight because he will see he is out of his league.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:09 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I just don't see it. I'd be shocked if McGregor could beat a tomato can boxer let alone a top-tier boxer
I disagree with you here because you also have to account for a fighters reaction speed, chin, power, and athleticism which in a lot of cases can't be taught. Plus boxing is not completely foreign to MMA fighters because a lot of fighters do normal boxing training or started off training in boxing before transitioning to MMA which is what Conor did. You have fighters like Andrei Arlovski who used to train with Freddie Roach and the Diaz brothers who constantly spar with professional boxers.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:44 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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I disagree with you here because you also have to account for a fighters reaction speed, chin, power, and athleticism which in a lot of cases can't be taught. Plus boxing is not completely foreign to MMA fighters because a lot of fighters do normal boxing training or started off training in boxing before transitioning to MMA which is what Conor did. You have fighters like Andrei Arlovski who used to train with Freddie Roach and the Diaz brothers who constantly spar with professional boxers.
with that being said, McGregor still would have zero chance of beating Mayweather in a boxing match if they both have to make weight at 147 or 154 lbs.
But they could even up the fight a little bit and at least make it more interesting if McGregor would get to make weight at say 160lbs and Mayweather would have to make weight at 150lbs at the weigh in.
That way you would get to see McGregor trying to take advantage of his size and power advantage vs Mayweathers superior talent, speed, and boxing skills.
Otherwise I just don't see where there would be any interest in the fight. It's just to much of a mismatch.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:12 am to boxcar willie
This argument is so stupid. I hate Mayweather because his style is like watching flies frick. He just fought one of the best fighters ever and the guy had a hard time hitting Floyd with any authority. Floyd just doesn't take hard shots.
He would clown McGregor and he would clown McGregor badly.
He would clown McGregor and he would clown McGregor badly.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:20 pm to bamarep
The arguments back and forth here are why this fight (or a fight like it) could happen in the future.
Bottom line here is the people claiming top 100 boxers would kill any MMA fighter in round one are just plain uneducated and not worth arguing with. There have been dozens of professional boxers switch to MMA including Olympic boxers.
Bottom line here is the people claiming top 100 boxers would kill any MMA fighter in round one are just plain uneducated and not worth arguing with. There have been dozens of professional boxers switch to MMA including Olympic boxers.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:40 pm to diat150
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hope mcgregor knocks him out. he has a punchers chance at best.
No he doesnt. If Canelo cant touch May then McGregor wont come close.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Someone clearly doesnt underatand what a punchers chance means... Then followed by an at best ....
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:43 pm to Dr RC
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he jabs, counters, and dances away.
So youre saying he does what great boxers do? Land as many punches as possible while trying to not get hit as much as possible.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:49 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Is he even that?
No Connor Mcgregor in a boxing match would get dominated any top 20 boxer in his weight class.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:52 pm to The Eric
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Connor will come out swinging for 5 rounds. If he gets a hold of Mayweather he has the pop to win
World class boxers cant hit Floyd squarely and you think Connor will?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:54 pm to diat150
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Someone clearly doesnt underatand what a punchers chance means... Then followed by an at best ....
Canelo Alverez had a punchers chance. An untrained guy that just got outboxed by Nate Diaz DOESNT have any chance. World class boxers cant hit Floyd.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 7:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Canelo Alverez had a punchers chance. An untrained guy that just got outboxed by Nate Diaz DOESNT have any chance. World class boxers cant hit Floyd.
how many guys has floyd boxed that are bigger than him and have the reach advantage? btw he definitely didnt get outboxed by diaz. he whipped diaz in the first round and then wore himself out. the issue he had was that diaz is bigger than him and had the reach advantage... and it didnt hurt that he is one of the toughest dudes around and has a monster chin.
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:25 pm to ReauxlTide222
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You're easily in the top 5 worst posters on this site.
I think it's funny that he's still a shitty poster on this board too.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:42 pm to diat150
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he whipped diaz in the first round and then wore himself out.
Lmao. He may have landed some solid shots on Nate but he ate a ton of shots too. He blew his wad by trying to throw bombs for 5 straight minutes while constantly getting popped right in the mouth with a stiff jab.
The 2nd fight will be no different. He will get jabbed right in the chin over and over until he gets rocked then he will get put out.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 8:58 pm to Shoulderchoke
He Whipped nate in the first round, nobody an deny that. I didnt think he would win the first fight and dont think he will win the second either. He isnt going to knock nate out and he certainly isnt going to beat him on the ground. Nate is just bigger, longer, and stronger.... A bad matchup All the way around for mcgregor.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:26 pm to Shoulderchoke
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Lmao. He may have landed some solid shots on Nate but he ate a ton of shots too. He blew his wad by trying to throw bombs for 5 straight minutes while constantly getting popped right in the mouth with a stiff jab.
Exactly. McGregor has no chance in a boxing match just like Floyd has no chnace in a mma match. Floyd has more of chance to catch McGregor in a mma fight than McGregor has a chance catching Floyd in a boxing match. Thats what Floyd does. Not get hit and thats against world class boxers.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:29 pm to philter
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Bottom line here is the people claiming top 100 boxers would kill any MMA fighter in round one are just plain uneducated and not worth arguing with. There have been dozens of professional boxers switch to MMA including Olympic boxers.
Nobody in mma could be beat any top 10 boxer,in their weight class, in the world in a straight up boxing match. Come the frick on man.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 9:03 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Nobody in mma could be beat any top 10 boxer,in their weight class, in the world in a straight up boxing match. Come the frick on man.
in a boxing match mcgregor will be 15-20 lbs heavier than floyd and have more reach.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 9:38 am to diat150
You must be a Verlanderbeast alter. That's the only way to explain the stupidity
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 9:38 am
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