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re: Coaches poll released
Posted on 10/18/15 at 12:45 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 10/18/15 at 12:45 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
at Alabama being the highest 1 loss team
Shite has been like this for the last 8 years. It's really getting old.
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 12:53 pm to Pels Bells
quote:
If I was a pollster, I would not be crediting Michigan State with a win. I would look at it the same as if they lost. The only reason they won was because of the flukiest of plays at the very end of the game. Play that same situation 1 million times, and they lose that game 999,999 times.
Thank god you're not a pollster. MSU had 20 first downs to UM's 10 and almost double the yardage. UM was mainly in the lead because of special teams gaffes but when they lose on a special teams gaffe it should count as a win?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:02 pm to DevinTheDude
quote:What I'm saying is the final score doesn't mean anything in that game. The last play changed nothing as far as my perception of the teams when the clock was at 10 seconds left compared to 0 seconds left.
Thank god you're not a pollster. MSU had 20 first downs to UM's 10 and almost double the yardage. UM was mainly in the lead because of special teams gaffes but when they lose on a special teams gaffe it should count as a win?
So for example... if I was going to drop Michigan State in the rankings before that last play, that last play wouldn't change where I'd rank them just because they ended up with more points on a last second fluke play.
If Michigan would have won, they would have risen in the polls. But because they lost, they dropped in the polls. It makes no sense that the last play of the game was the difference in causing them to rise or fall.
Are we trying to find the 4 best teams or are we just ranking based on stats and numbers?
Here is a pollster's thinking "10 seconds left... Michigan looks like the 9th best team to me. *10 seconds later*. Nevermind. They look like the 17th best team to me."
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:03 pm to Pels Bells
What's your definition of best team?
Because a 5 loss team may have future NFL players all over the field. So they could be best team
Yet a team with 0 draft picks could go unbeaten but only be +1/game in scoring margin
Because a 5 loss team may have future NFL players all over the field. So they could be best team
Yet a team with 0 draft picks could go unbeaten but only be +1/game in scoring margin
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:09 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:We just beat a top 10 team 41-23 on the road. Just be glad we only moved up 2 spots.
at Alabama being the highest 1 loss team
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:12 pm to pvilleguru
AP poll out yet?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:12 pm to boXerrumble
TCU and Michigan State should be the 2 lowest ranked undefeated teams. Bama over undefeated teams is asinine, but it's Bama and they always get favouritism. Bama's loss, at home, came to a team that just got beat handily by Memphis.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:14 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
We just beat a fraud that shouldn't be in the top 10 team 41-23 on the road. Just be glad we only moved up 2 spots.
FIFY
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:16 pm to TigerBait2008
Your opinion of Texas A&M doesn't really mean anything. The pollsters still thought enough of them to put them in the top ten this far into the season.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:16 pm to TigerBait2008
Everyone so upset at bama
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:19 pm to JJ27
quote:FIFY
came to a team that just got beat handily by #17 Memphis
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:25 pm to PAGator
Notre Dame
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:30 pm to Paul Allen
AP Poll released
AP Top 25
RK TEAM REC PTS TREND
1 Ohio State(28) 7-0 1428 —
2 Baylor(12) 6-0 1416 —
3 Utah(16) 6-0 1362 1
4 TCU(3) 7-0 1338 1
5 LSU(1) 6-0 1306 1
6 Clemson(1) 6-0 1252 1
7 Michigan State 7-0 1202 —
8 Alabama 6-1 1133 2
9 Florida State 6-0 1041 2
10 Stanford 5-1 917 5
11 Notre Dame 6-1 898 3
12 Iowa 7-0 820 5
13 Florida 6-1 785 5
14 Oklahoma State 6-0 735 2
15 Michigan 5-2 614 3
Texas A&M 5-1 614 6
17 Oklahoma 5-1 565 2
18 Memphis 6-0 553 —
19 Toledo 6-0 345 3
20 California 5-1 336 3
21 Houston 6-0 317 3
22 Temple 6-0 216 —
23 Duke 5-1 210 2
24 Ole Miss 5-2 157 11
25 Pittsburgh 5-1 73 —
AP Top 25
RK TEAM REC PTS TREND
1 Ohio State(28) 7-0 1428 —
2 Baylor(12) 6-0 1416 —
3 Utah(16) 6-0 1362 1
4 TCU(3) 7-0 1338 1
5 LSU(1) 6-0 1306 1
6 Clemson(1) 6-0 1252 1
7 Michigan State 7-0 1202 —
8 Alabama 6-1 1133 2
9 Florida State 6-0 1041 2
10 Stanford 5-1 917 5
11 Notre Dame 6-1 898 3
12 Iowa 7-0 820 5
13 Florida 6-1 785 5
14 Oklahoma State 6-0 735 2
15 Michigan 5-2 614 3
Texas A&M 5-1 614 6
17 Oklahoma 5-1 565 2
18 Memphis 6-0 553 —
19 Toledo 6-0 345 3
20 California 5-1 336 3
21 Houston 6-0 317 3
22 Temple 6-0 216 —
23 Duke 5-1 210 2
24 Ole Miss 5-2 157 11
25 Pittsburgh 5-1 73 —
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:36 pm to Pels Bells
quote:This is the problem with human rankings, you used flawed eye tests and inherent biases come into play as well.
What I'm saying is the final score doesn't mean anything in that game. The last play changed nothing as far as my perception of the teams when the clock was at 10 seconds left compared to 0 seconds left.
I'd much prefer a compilation of computer polls to decide the top 4 for reasons just like this.
quote:You're trying to find the top 4 resumes, so Yea, wins and losses should factor in.
Are we trying to find the 4 best teams or are we just ranking based on stats and numbers?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 2:38 pm to Bama and Beer
quote:
Everyone so upset at bama
They are annoyed that they know we are going to win out again and be in the playoffs agan
Posted on 10/18/15 at 2:53 pm to PAGator
Florida has one loss and they beat Ole Miss. Alabama couldn't do that.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 2:56 pm to shel311
Computers are biased also. Just as SOS are.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:28 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Bama has beaten 2 top 10 teams this year and would skull frick the hell out of Michigan or Michigan State. Seriously have you seen them play?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:32 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:
Bama has beaten 2 top 10 teams this year
Ummmmmm what?
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:33 pm to Bama and Beer
quote:I know, it is really funny. "But Bama lost"
Everyone so upset at bama
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