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re: CFB Playoff Exec Direc. said Saban and Meyer advised against 8 team playoff

Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Stanford had more business than Oklahom


Stanford was a victim of making a challenging schedule.

sad really
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:01 pm to
Ha, just looked I'm dum.
Either way, comparing losses as a way to determine who is deserving isn't a very good indicator.

Didn't watch the sugar, I apologize.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12760 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Alabama lost to a mediocre team that didn't even make a new years six bowl.
The Sugar Bowl isn't a NY6 bowl? When did that happen?
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:01 pm to
8 team playoff would be great for entertainment purposes.

I think you'd lose in attendance though. It's already tough as is for the non championship games because fans that can only go to one of the games have to choose. Add another game in there and that makes that choice even harder.

I know it's a good problem to have I guess, but it's still something to think about.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Stanford had more business than Oklahoma.


Let's disagree here. I know Texas sucks, but 1 loss is better than 2 losses. 2-loss teams should not regularly have a shot (and that is coming from an LSU fan).
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:03 pm to
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1 loss is better than 2 losses
.



so we should give teams more incentive towards scheduling weaker opponents

horrible, horrible logic
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Ralph Nader
Member since Nov 2015
559 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:04 pm to
I like it how it is. I liked the BCS how they tried to get the 2 best teams to play for the championship.

But sometimes the #3 team had an argument.

So to remedy that, they added the #3 team and #4 team to the mix so now everyone who is deserving of playing for the National Championship can decide it on the field.



It's perfect.



There is no need to expand it to 8 teams. I like the high-stakes of college football how it was with the BCS and how it is now.

I don't want the #8 team getting a shot.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

The Sugar Bowl isn't a NY6 bowl? When did that happen?


When Ohio State doesn't play in the sugar bowl its not a NY6, we've already established that.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Alabama lost to a mediocre team that didn't even make a new years six bowl.

Ur dum.


lol, no you're dumb. Ole Miss played in, and dominated, the Sugar Bowl.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:05 pm to
I made an error and fessed up to it. And I don't lime to edit my errors for posterity sake, but comparing losses especially bowl losses to determine who should be in the CFP isn't a very good way to go about business.

I'm dum tho
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:05 pm to
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There's not 8 teams worthy of playing for a title each year. Honestly, there is usually no more than 2-3.


But we usually only know that after bowl games...
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158779 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:06 pm to
the only expansion I'd see working is a 6 team playoff with the top 2 getting a bye.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83944 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:08 pm to
I don't want an 8-team playoff either.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

so we should give teams more incentive towards scheduling weaker opponents


not necessarily, but you could argue Stanford/Oklahoma till the cows come home and be right on both sides of the argument. That doesn't get fixed going to 8 teams. They made the call, and left out the team with 2 losses. Oklahoma won a P5 conference with 1 loss and looked very good down the stretch. I don't see the big issue.

At least in the scenario above, we can argue 2 good teams. With an 8-team playoff, we would have been arguing over FSU, Notre Dame, or Houston getting in
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

I don't want an 8-team playoff either.


I would if it's the top 8 teams, no conference tie in.

Top 6 is growing on me too.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36133 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:10 pm to
I do think 8 is too many teams to get a crack at a NC. This does devalue the regular season when (especially big name) teams will have seemingly consequential losses largely invalidated by their inclusion in the playoff.

Having said that, it seems inevitable now. Six would be preferable but 8 will happen IMO. The best we can hope for is a logical schedule and qualification system. Spacing out the rounds of the playoff seems like the obvious first step to me.

First round
(two weeks after the last week of the season):
Top Four teams host the bottom four in their stadiums.

Second round
(one week after Christmas, either Saturday or Monday depending on what comes after the New Year's Day Bowl games):
"Neutral" Site Bowl Games with 1vs4 and 2vs3

Final round
(The Monday after the second round):
Championship Game
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:14 pm to
The only good thing about an 8-team playoff is that teams could schedule harder since they could probably lose 2 games and still make it.


If they go to 8, they will guarantee the P5 teams their conf champ. That fricking blows. There are years where a team could be 9-3 from the ACC and make it in over a 1-loss team that finished second in another conference. Political and media pressure will NEVER let them just choose the Top 8 ranked teams. For that reason, I don't like it.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:14 pm to
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I like the idea of 8 but they have to move up the games. This would obviously add another week and I don't want college football going into February. As it is now I think the Championship game is too late.


lol

u add no extra weeks

8 teams play
1 week off
4 teams play
1 week off
final

5 weeks to finish an 8 team playoff. they are at 5 weeks right now
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59128 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:17 pm to
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8 is too damn many.

I love it at 4.


this to infinity. 4 is perfect
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 2:19 pm to
under ideal circumstances, 8 is too many playoffs teams, but in college football as it stands today - its a necessity.

regular season scheduling is largely regional and, as such, it is ruining our abilities to effectively evaluate different conferences at the national level - that is why we need more playoff games in order to do so.

Ohio State, Stanford, and even Houston could all have been viable playoff candidates.
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 2:21 pm
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