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re: CFB Bracket Thread - Looks Like The B1G Is Out?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:07 pm to Sigma
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:07 pm to Sigma
Did I say the BCS was perfect or even ok? Still would be better than a committee of 12 people with allegiances and ties to schools and an axe to grind with rivals that may be in the mix. At least the BCS had some breadth and depth as compared to 12 folks in a room. Do you not already see the issues in these polls?
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:13 pm to bayoujd
No, I find it refreshing. The eyeball test is out the window so far and I think they've done a good job of balancing quality wins vs quality losses without secuming to recency bias.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:13 pm to rocket31
ASU 9th rofl
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:14 pm to Sigma
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The eyeball test is out the window so far
the ranking of Alabama suggests otherwise
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:21 pm to rocket31
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The eyeball test is out the window so far
the ranking of Alabama suggests otherwise
Then why are they not sitting at #3?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:21 pm to yurintroubl
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It's called "body of work"... TCU lost by one on the road to a highly ranked team (whose OOC schedule has won 4 games total).
Baylor won by 1 at home vs TCU then lost on the road to an unranked WVU. What is Baylor's best win besides TCU?
Baylor schedule back loaded. @OU, KSU, and Ok State still to comes. will be interesting to see if Baylor is treated the same way as other teams if they win out.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:21 pm to Sigma
Really? How do you explain TCU over Baylor? Ole Miss over LSU? If only those teams, having the same records, had met on the field to break the tie between them. Oh wait, they did! Can you let the committee know?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:26 pm to bayoujd
It's not hard. They've repeatedly said that head to head is important but it's not the only criteria. OM didn't lose 41-7.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:42 pm to Sigma
Any group of people that ignores head to head as the #1 tiebreaker are idiots in my book. Any one with half a sports brain knows head to head breaks a tie between like records.
Also, ASU lost by 40. How are they 9th?
Michigan State lost by 20. Didn't seem to hurt them.
But LSU's loss hurts them even though they started a true FR at QB in that game. And they beat Ole Miss 10 days ago? It doesn't compute.
Also, ASU lost by 40. How are they 9th?
Michigan State lost by 20. Didn't seem to hurt them.
But LSU's loss hurts them even though they started a true FR at QB in that game. And they beat Ole Miss 10 days ago? It doesn't compute.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:44 pm to Sigma
great article
So here's how Long explained why the committee moved Oregon to No. 4, keeping No. 5 Alabama and No. 6 TCU on the outside looking in.
"It's the product of Oregon's other wins," Long said on the weekly ESPN show revealing the rankings. "They have the Michigan State win, they also went on the road against UCLA and won, and a couple of other wins that put their body of work a step ahead at this point."
Body of work?
Oregon's one caveat is that early-season victory over then-No. 7 Michigan State, which remains the now No. 8 CFP ranked Spartans' only loss.
But of the four current one-loss teams in the top six, only Oregon's loss came at home to Arizona, an unranked team (Arizona) at that point.
Alabama lost at then-No. 11 Ole Miss, Auburn lost at then-No. 3 Mississippi State and TCU lost on a last-second field goal at then-No. 5 Baylor.
Oregon's schedule doesn't compare with the rest of the one-loss teams. This weekend, the Ducks are playing just their third ranked team (No. 17 Utah) of the season.
By the time, Alabama finishes its regular season, it will have played five ranked teams in its last eight games. Auburn went through a stretch where it played four ranked teams in six games, including giving currently No. 7 Kansas State its only loss of the season in key non-conference road victory for the Tigers.
So here's how Long explained why the committee moved Oregon to No. 4, keeping No. 5 Alabama and No. 6 TCU on the outside looking in.
"It's the product of Oregon's other wins," Long said on the weekly ESPN show revealing the rankings. "They have the Michigan State win, they also went on the road against UCLA and won, and a couple of other wins that put their body of work a step ahead at this point."
Body of work?
Oregon's one caveat is that early-season victory over then-No. 7 Michigan State, which remains the now No. 8 CFP ranked Spartans' only loss.
But of the four current one-loss teams in the top six, only Oregon's loss came at home to Arizona, an unranked team (Arizona) at that point.
Alabama lost at then-No. 11 Ole Miss, Auburn lost at then-No. 3 Mississippi State and TCU lost on a last-second field goal at then-No. 5 Baylor.
Oregon's schedule doesn't compare with the rest of the one-loss teams. This weekend, the Ducks are playing just their third ranked team (No. 17 Utah) of the season.
By the time, Alabama finishes its regular season, it will have played five ranked teams in its last eight games. Auburn went through a stretch where it played four ranked teams in six games, including giving currently No. 7 Kansas State its only loss of the season in key non-conference road victory for the Tigers.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:02 pm to CWilken21
At this point, even though Oregon's loss is worse than TCU or Bama, it has better wins. The three teams were probably all very close anyway, but you've got to pick one for the spot.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:04 pm to bamabenny
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Kannell is such a douche. His SEC hate is out of control.
His hate was quite apparent. That's for sure.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:07 pm to bayoujd
Are you comparing ASU and MSU to LSU? They only have one loss, which is why they're ahead.
The ASU/ND/OSU/MSU/Baylor group is all pretty similar, but they've got to be in some order.
The ASU/ND/OSU/MSU/Baylor group is all pretty similar, but they've got to be in some order.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:33 am to Sigma
I don't disagree with the Big Ten being bad. However, I don't get the love for the Big 12 and Pac 12. Yea, they seem to have great offenses but none truly have great defenses.
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2/3 PAC 12 and Big 12
4 Big Ten
5. ACC
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2/3 PAC 12 and Big 12
4 Big Ten
5. ACC
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:29 am to Cap Crunch
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The Big 10 sucks. Big 12 champ deserves a spot IMO. 2nd best conference right now
I may not disagree with you, but I just don't know how anyone knows that. OU/TCU/KSU/Baylor haven't beaten anyone out of their own conference to prove they are good. WVU barely beat Maryland at home. Does that mean Maryland is better than or equal to TCU? OSU beat Maryland by 30 points @ Maryland. OSU also lost to dog poo VT. TCU may have the best win OOC for the Big 12, over Minnesota at home. If OSU were to beat MSU @ MSU then Minnesota @ Minny (by more than TCU), are they better? I have no fing idea
Which is why all 5 power conference champs needs to be "in."
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:30 am to Sigma
I thought the committee was supposed to decide who are the best teams. So you are saying they are ahead strictly bc they have only one loss?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:39 am to More beer please
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I thought the committee was supposed to decide who are the best teams. So you are saying they are ahead strictly bc they have only one loss?
Well better teams lose less games according to people. Also, LSU did get blown out by Auburn, badly. Even if was "early" it really wasn't as it was 5 games into the season.
I think a loss to a top 10 team on the road (in a somewhat close game) should be forgiven. A loss at home is harder to get by no matter what IMO
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:47 am to Buckeye06
Even if that loss at home is to the #1 in the country? Again just more subjective bs that could have been avoided.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:54 am to More beer please
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"a step ahead at this point."
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See y'all in a few weeks when this clears up a little.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:30 am to LittleRockHog501
quote:This is likely true, and I can't tell you how much I HATE that.
(Arizona State was) Missing starting QB that game. They probably took that into consideration.
There does exist this possibility, though, and though I find it highly unlikely, it certainly would make some sense: They ignore margin of victory. My computer system ignores MOV, and AzSt is #9 in my rankings this week. The Massey Composite, which consists mostly of computers that take MOV into account, has AzSt at #16.
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