re: Capitol and Southern Lab fire FB coaches; LHSAA plans press conference

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No one did until the University did an audit.

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That, in and of itself, is stunning.

Southern Lab is not that big of a school. Each student should have their own account. At anytime, someone should be able to run a report and see which students owe money.

Can someone talk more about the relationship between Southern Lab and Southern University? Are they supposed to have oversight?

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Most priests are wired such that they will be as helping and accomodating as possible. If the role of the priest is to make sure there are controls in place, I'm not sure how likely that is.

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this right here... in their eyes they are helping a kid get a better life so they are doing the right thing....

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Most priests are wired such that they will be as helping and accomodating as possible. If the role of the priest is to make sure there are controls in place, I'm not sure how likely that is.

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Are you Catholic? No disrespect, but I completely disagree here as someone that grew up going to Catholic school.

It really depends on the priest for one. Sure, some care like you say without a doubt. But I would say the vast majority care more about the school than the athletics. They are not going to pay for some random kid to go there because he is a dumbass but is great at football. I'd argue that every priest I've ever known would prefer a kid that wanted to be there and worked his butt off to be there whether that be grades, volunteering, athleticism, etc.

But many of these sketchy situations don't involve good kids and good hard working parents, because they are usually able to find legitimate ways to get a great education. Most involved the lazy thugs that the coaches HAVE to skirt the system to get them in. Those are the types, that most priests in my experience would not want to deal with.

I do not know exactly where the money for tuition comes from as I was not told: is it donors to the 'foundation' Brownfield was the head of; donors just to the school itself

I don't know who doles out the money to pay the tuition either. I was given limited details, but solid enough to understand the gist of what happened and took place.

Everything else is just speculation, but very sound speculation and logical.

I also believe the parents were told their tuition (all of it) or half/quarter/whatever the amount of the total costs were covered and they would have to cover the rest. When the bills came through it would seem that the most logical outcome would be that the parents were out of the loop and the payments were made by the staff or someone within the school. But, as we find out those payments were siphoned off and accounting tricks were used to hide it. Southern audits; finds out there is a discrepancy between students and tuition; they dig deeper and investigate to find the source. Boom goes the dynamite.

Hats off to them for giving a freak and caring.

If we are to believe that only 2 people were apart of this we have to be blind. It took more than 2 parties to make this happen. That has to be a reason why they said the investigation was ongoing and would not end anytime soon.

Most of the priests/brothers want to help whoever they can. They probably say if we have the funds let's do it. I would bet they most often get requests from the coaches etc of kids who need help and are also good at sports. Why would the priest say no to that? It has helped a lot of kids. I dare say Guice may not be where he is if that didn't happen. He was a handful in high school as it is.

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So we had...

1) Money being raised, ostensibly, to pay tuition for athletic recruits (even if the donors didn't know they were actually boosters)

2) That money being essentially stolen before it made it to the school

3) The theft of the money being covered up and/or the books were in such bad shape that it was impossible, in real time, to tell what was happening.

Yes, kudos to Southern, the new Lab Principal, and the LHSAA for ferreting this out. But the fact this could happen at all is a pretty damning indictment of the system, and probably means we need to get a lot tougher.

Or just admit that recruiting and athletic scholarships are ok, put those schools in their own division, and move on.

A question I saw asked a few times is why would they start their own investigation and tell on them themselves? I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's because unlike just about any other private or mixed private they sit on a Division 1 campus and have additional oversight.

Southern started the investigation not Lab. They do get quite a few athletes from lab and I bet they were scared as shite when they got a whiff of what may be going on at lab. They have the NCAA looking over their shoulders and chose to get in front of it to show they weren't involved. If the NCAA got involved, then there really could have been some repercussions. Notice how much its being mentioned who started the investigation and how cooperative they have been. Maybe trying to keep the NCAA away.

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A school like Curtis or Evangel recruits itself and kids want to go there, should they not be eligible for financial aid just because they play a sport. I've even seen smaller public schools like Port Sulphur/South Plaq, Haynesville, and west St John go through periods were they were among the best in the state regardless of class.

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It, in the past, was very difficult to prove recruiting. What Southern was able to do is astounding when viewed from a distance: they caught recruiting of players and then the theft of their tuition. That is absolutely incredible work to pull off.

But, we also live in a new age where information travels faster than every in modern history: one can record happenings on their phones; computers; emails; instant message, etc...etc... All it takes in ONE rat and the whole house of cards comes down. A rat can protect his arse better than every with proof because of the technological age we live in.

So, Southern University more than likely found the proof on computers and/or other items within the school itself. People probably came forward with proof also from a technological device and/or old school paper trails.

What one school should get out of this more than anything else is clear: If you recruit you cover your arse and those arse's that are involved the best way you can. All it takes is on disgruntled person or one person who gets a better offer to spill the beans with proof of any kind.

But, first someone, or some organization/school must give a damn for it to matter. Southern University did so and made it all come down.

If a school receives a player they should vet that player so thoroughly and everyone associated with said player as well as they can before they even think about playing him. And, if another school files a complaint (sender school or any other school) against said player you best take that shite serious as can be.

I say that because Bonine and the LHSAA has fire under their arses now as principals and athletic departments around the state will demand same equal vetting/investigating and punishment across the board. They will expect that when they file a complaint that they take it as serious as what we have seen with Southern Lab and John Ehret.

Schools should not take Bonine and what he said about transfers across the state being thoroughly scrutinized and investigated as a bluff or smoke.

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Southern started the investigation not Lab. They do get quite a few athletes from lab and I bet they were scared as shite when they got a whiff of what may be going on at lab. They have the NCAA looking over their shoulders and chose to get in front of it to show they weren't involved. If the NCAA got involved, then there really could have been some repercussions. Notice how much its being mentioned who started the investigation and how cooperative they have been. Maybe trying to keep the NCAA away

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With the NCAA, if a school self-reports the penalties are usually less severe than if the NCAA has to start the investigation.

What has been done here is insane, and given the penalties issued... my guess is if this wasn't self-reported, Southern Lab might have been kicked out of the LHSAA.