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re: Byron Scott is Bad for Basketball
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:36 pm to LittleRockHog501
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:36 pm to LittleRockHog501
Portland shot a lot of 3's that series. And Houston doesn't have trouble scoring. Although that series Harden struggled to make even wide-open shots.
That's really what it came down to. Aldridge played out of his mind and Harden played poorly.
That's really what it came down to. Aldridge played out of his mind and Harden played poorly.
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:37 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Portland shot a lot of 3's that series.
yeah while LA is a midrange beast, it's not like lillard isn't bombing away and guys like mo williams/batum didn't launch their fair share
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Seven of the past eight NBA champions led all playoff teams in 3-point attempts and makes.
So a team who played more games, and by virtue took more shots won the title? I'm certain there is a article somewhere that details how the better half of the mid range shooting teams have produced the champion as well.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
My overall point is that having the ability to do everything, and playing more towards your strength will win you games. Not trying to fit round ball into a square peg and jack up three after three.
The exact thing the Rockets have tried to all out eliminate on their team is the very thing that beat them. And if Harden doesn't become a better mid range shooter, his playoff struggles will continue. It is a wrinkle he needs to add.
The exact thing the Rockets have tried to all out eliminate on their team is the very thing that beat them. And if Harden doesn't become a better mid range shooter, his playoff struggles will continue. It is a wrinkle he needs to add.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but you won't have 1-on-1 matchups often in that case
and sitting in the corners is just playing smart. a solid (we're not even talking about good) corner shooter will hit 40% of his 3s. a SUPER DUPER ELITE post player (shaq's best seasons) will hit about 57% of his short shots
over 100 shots, the mediocre 3 point player will have 120 points
over 100 shots, the most dominating post guy will have 114 points
Yep and the 3 point shooter won't get many offensive rebounds or draw many fouls. He's also far more likely to miss 10 in a row while the post player is consistant
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:54 pm to LittleRockHog501
No pace is the thing that fricks these teams up, not their 3 point shooting. There was some big arse article I read this summer discussing how much pace matters to championship level basketball. Like 99% of run and gun teams fail in the playoffs.
Having a guy that is deadly from midrange like Kobe is huge, but building your offense around it can kill a team.
My Grizzlies for example are one of the best defensive teams in the league and have guys that kill you from midrange like Zbo and Gasol, but what has killed us in postseason at times is a lack of consistent 3 point shooting.
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I'm certain there is a article somewhere that details how the better half of the mid range shooting teams have produced the champion as well.
Having a guy that is deadly from midrange like Kobe is huge, but building your offense around it can kill a team.
My Grizzlies for example are one of the best defensive teams in the league and have guys that kill you from midrange like Zbo and Gasol, but what has killed us in postseason at times is a lack of consistent 3 point shooting.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:56 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Yep and the 3 point shooter won't get many offensive rebounds or draw many fouls.
the 3 point shooters space the floor out for drives and pick and rolls, which gets you the FTs. this stops good pnr defense you alluded to earlier
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He's also far more likely to miss 10 in a row while the post player is consistant
their respective shooting % remain. this point is irrelevant
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:05 pm to LittleRockHog501
quote:This whole part is a load of crap. Harden is a good mid-range shooter. He's the one player on the team who shoots a lot of mid-range shots. He's got one of the best step-back jumpers in the game.
The exact thing the Rockets have tried to all out eliminate on their team is the very thing that beat them. And if Harden doesn't become a better mid range shooter, his playoff struggles will continue. It is a wrinkle he needs to add.
He was struggling because he was slumping right at the end of the season, and it continued in the playoffs. He couldn't even hit wide-open shots. It had nothing to do with adding a mid-range wrinkle.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:05 pm to LittleRockHog501
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My overall point is that having the ability to do everything, and playing more towards your strength will win you games. Not trying to fit round ball into a square peg and jack up three after three.
but if your strength doesn't involve 3 point shooting, you will fail
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And if Harden doesn't become a better mid range shooter, his playoff struggles will continue.
why? even in a pnr situation (that will often rely on midrange shooting), he's not the guy taking the long 2
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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their respective shooting % remain. this point is irrelevant
Yeah good luck getting open 3s when you are down by double digits because you've missed your last 7 shots. quote:
the 3 point shooters space the floor out for drives and pick and rolls, which gets you the FTs. this stops good pnr defense you alluded to earlier
A well defended pic and roll means your PG is over dribbling and trying to force his way to the basket and/or shooting a 3 because no one has to leave their man.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:58 am to PrimeTime Money
A little amendment of my last statement. He should add more to his game. Because now he is predictable. A lot of his "harden steps"(as they have been dubbed) lead to threes. He loves that. But he most definitely was not slumping going into the post season. I had a thread on another forum when he had a 15 game stretch of
W/L- 10-5
27.8 PPG 4.7 RPG 8.1 APG 1.9 SPG
FG%-45 3pt FG%-41 FT%-90
That was without Dwight.
W/L- 10-5
27.8 PPG 4.7 RPG 8.1 APG 1.9 SPG
FG%-45 3pt FG%-41 FT%-90
That was without Dwight.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don't think anybody else really wanted to coach that team. he's a name. he's a laker. he won't clash with kobe
Are you fist fricking me? You think they gave Kobe as much money as they did only to shite tank this season and next on purpose?
If literally nobody wanted to coach this team...why in the hell would they waste their time with Kobe? Blow it all up and get new blood in there.
There's is no way they signed a dinosaur to that contract and then hired an ex laker shite coach knowing they'd suck dick for the foreseeable future is there?
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 5:50 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:34 am to ReauxlTide222
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You think they gave Kobe as much money as they did only to shite tank this season and next on purpose?
Either this or they are insanely incompetent because they are gonna shite tank this season.
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There's is no way they signed a dinosaur to that contract and then hired an ex laker shite coach knowing they'd suck dick for the foreseeable future is there?
Then what is the plan then? They might be the worst team in the Western conference this season. There are a lot of things they could have done to avoid being so terrible, but they didn't.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:40 am to RTR America
RTR....
Grindhouse is almost back
Grindhouse is almost back
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:47 am to RTR America
Byron Scott is a cover for Kobe to be the player-coach... Thats all he is...
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:34 am to KG5989
Umm...
Skinny Marc Gasol is about to take over the NBA
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Marc Gasol has been an absolute monster during the exhibition season, even if he hasn't put up the traditional per-game stats that we typically associate with dominance.
Nonetheless, look at the 40.4 player efficiency rating he earned through his first five preseason games, one that left just about everyone else in the league in the dust. It was the result of 55.3 percent shooting from the field, an 87.5 percent clip from the charity stripe and only three turnovers in 98.2 minutes on the court.
Among many other things, of course. Even after he regressed a bit during his final two outings, he had a sensational preseason PER of 34.6.
Skinny Marc Gasol is about to take over the NBA
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:40 am to RTR America
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Skinny Marc Gasol
Imma kinda miss the dancing bear, tho
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
We still have Zbo 
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:48 am to RTR America
He'll have to do
Interested to see how Vinsanity gels w/ y'all. He was killing us in the opening round. Quite the shooter and will still embarrass you at the rim if you let him.
Interested to see how Vinsanity gels w/ y'all. He was killing us in the opening round. Quite the shooter and will still embarrass you at the rim if you let him.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:04 am to TbirdSpur2010
He had a bone spur surgery in the offseason so they will probably bring him along kind of slowly. He did get Dirk with a nice block a week or two ago right at the rim. His playmaking ability is going to be a great addition.
Having Quincy Pondexter is probably bigger tbh. He was our best player against y'all in the WCF and he missed like 90% of last year's season.
I had my fantasy draft today and I couldn't be more excited for this season to get started.
Having Quincy Pondexter is probably bigger tbh. He was our best player against y'all in the WCF and he missed like 90% of last year's season.
I had my fantasy draft today and I couldn't be more excited for this season to get started.
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