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re: Byron Scott is Bad for Basketball
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:42 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:42 pm to VerlanderBEAST
The triangle also puts the ball in your best players hand in isolated situations. Its the best offense IMO when you have the team for it
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:42 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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it is a superior offense to the spread pick and roll crap that 90% of the NBA runs now.
theoretically, but it's basically impossible to put together (and not really possible today)
yeah, if you could put together a team of noah/boogie and harden, they'd tear shite up on offense (they'd still shoot 3s, though)
and the spurs in the finals last year beat that lakers team....badly
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:43 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Are you comparing Phil jacksons triangle offense to Byron Scotts offense?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is me everytime I remember that Byron Scott is the head coach of the lakers....
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:49 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Yes because spreading the floor and running the pick and roll has never been fundamental basketball.
spread pick and roll crap that 90% of the NBA runs now.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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theoretically, but it's basically impossible to put together (and not really possible today)
yeah, if you could put together a team of noah/boogie and harden, they'd tear shite up on offense (they'd still shoot 3s, though)
and the spurs in the finals last year beat that lakers team....badly
It is basically impossible because there aren't enough great back to the basket scorers. The only player today who even approaches the skill level of prime Pau or Kobe is Lopez and he's almost never healthy/has been stuck on shite teams
The 09 Lakers would kill last years SpursPosted on 10/27/14 at 9:52 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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It is basically impossible because there aren't enough great back to the basket scorers.
there are plenty. acquiring 2 at the same time isn't easy.
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The only player today who even approaches the skill level of prime Pau or Kobe is Lopez
did you just compare brook lopez to kobe?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:57 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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The only player today who even approaches the skill level of prime Pau or Kobe is Lopez and he's almost never healthy/has been stuck on shite teams
Jesus...
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The 09 Lakers would kill last years Spurs
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quote:It is a hot & cold offense that stunts 1 on 1 scoring ability.
Yes because spreading the floor and running the pick and roll has never been fundamental basketball.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:03 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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It is a hot & cold offense
finding open teammates is a "hot and cold" offense?
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that stunts 1 on 1 scoring ability
yeah teamwork can't overcome 1-on-1 scenarios
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:05 pm to LordSaintly
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How the hell does he still keep getting head coaching jobs?
He was hired because they knew he would stink it up and increase draft pick odds to rebuild for the next team.
You can't lose on purpose but you can sure hire a guy who everyone loves who sucks at coaching to make sure you lose.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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did you just compare brook lopez to kobe?
In terms of being a skilled back to the basket scorer yes. He's not quite as good as prime kobe but he's at least on the level, no else is.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:07 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:What you are saying doesn't even make sense. The pick and roll is used within different offenses.
It is a hot & cold offense that stunts 1 on 1 scoring ability.
Teams spread the floor to open up space in the lane to drive to the basket.
Spreading the floor also helps guys post up because it creates more space for the big man to work down low.
Creating space and the pick and roll are fundamental ideas in basketball. It's not an offense itself.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:11 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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In terms of being a skilled back to the basket scorer yes.
this may be your requiem
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:When they are standing at the 3 point line? Yes.
finding open teammates is a "hot and cold" offense?
When they only get open because the pick and roll wasn't defended correctly? Yes
quote:You need both. Also the team work required in a motion offense that gets the ball inside>>>>>>The team work in a pick and roll with stationary shooters in the corners.
yeah teamwork can't overcome 1-on-1 scenarios
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:22 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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When they only get open because the pick and roll wasn't defended correctly? Yes
with the pnr and ball movement, there will always be open teammates. see: the spurs in the finals
they were running calculus and the 09 lakers were running pre-algebra
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Also the team work required in a motion offense that gets the ball inside>>>>>>The team work in a pick and roll with stationary shooters in the corners.
but you won't have 1-on-1 matchups often in that case
and sitting in the corners is just playing smart. a solid (we're not even talking about good) corner shooter will hit 40% of his 3s. a SUPER DUPER ELITE post player (shaq's best seasons) will hit about 57% of his short shots
over 100 shots, the mediocre 3 point player will have 120 points
over 100 shots, the most dominating post guy will have 114 points
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Tex winters and phils triangle is definetly not pre algebra
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
You seem to think like the Houston GM. That line of thinking got them beat by one of the best mid range shooting teams in league. I personally believe you play to your strength. Nothing in scheme is inherently superior to the other.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:29 pm to LittleRockHog501
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You seem to think like the Houston GM. That line of thinking got them beat by one of the best mid range shooting teams in league
you sound like byron scott
i shall reply with the same response in the article:
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Seven of the past eight NBA champions led all playoff teams in 3-point attempts and makes.
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I personally believe you play to your strength
there is a time and a place for midrange shooting, but it simply is not as efficient as shooting 3s
it's going to be really tough to get a midrange player to 57% from midrange. look at the breakdown above
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:30 pm
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