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re: Butch Jones calls player who helped a rape victim "a traitor" in front of team

Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

On one side of the line something is so heinous and extraordinary that I become very skeptical at the outset.



You're a better man than 95% of this board.


Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31634 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:22 pm to
Oh well I already knew that.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

people like you who think every rape victim is a liar are the ones mad that they never get laid


I never assume the rape accuser is a liar but I also don't assume she is telling the truth. Up to 40% of rape accusations are false.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:41 pm to
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Based on much of the sentiment expressed on this board and the OT, Butch should be a hero. After all, these women are just crazy whores looking for money, right?



That's beside the point, she could still be a money hungry loon telling lies, but if a football player attempted to help a woman who was sexually assaulted/abused/raped by fellow football players and Butch Jones called him a traitor to the entire team. Well it doesn't matter if she's lying or not, Butch has got to go.

If the players are innocent then they are innocent, but for a coach to say that, someone who has authority and is both the executive and face of that program, I'm disgusted.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:47 pm to
Time for Dave Hart to research resumes.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:49 pm to
Last time I checked The Vols are an SEC school. Butch will get away with it.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

she could still be a money hungry loon telling lies, but if a football player attempted to help a woman who was sexually assaulted/abused/raped by fellow football players and Butch Jones called him a traitor to the entire team. Well it doesn't matter if she's lying or not, Butch has got to go.

If the players are innocent then they are innocent, but for a coach to say that, someone who has authority and is both the executive and face of that program, I'm disgusted.


That's pretty much where I am.

It doesn't matter if the rape did or did not happen. If Drae reasonably believed that it had, helped this girl as a result of that belief, and then Butch calls hims a traitor for it? Christ that is horrible.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:51 pm to
UT could use some good ole joe alleva
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:52 pm to
i hope they beat boyles arse after this is over
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:54 pm to
It doesn't sound good, but it wouldn't be the first time something was taken out of context/lied about with court documents.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:07 pm to
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Threads on this topic are littered with that kind of opinion.

on which topic, exactly?

the UTenn issue or rape on campus, generally?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36406 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:07 pm to
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I never assume the rape accuser is a liar but I also don't assume she is telling the truth. Up to 40% of rape accusations are false.


oK you're right. It's wrong to presume either side is right or wrong at this point.

What is objectively disgusting to me is Butch Jones ridiculing and turning against someone who did the right thing, which is helping someone he thought was sexually assaulted (whether or not she was, I'll let the courts decide). Jones was putting football above a moral and legal obligation. That's abhorrent and it takes a true moral cretin to celebrate that if that version of events did in fact happen.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36406 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:08 pm to
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It doesn't matter if the rape did or did not happen. If Drae reasonably believed that it had, helped this girl as a result of that belief, and then Butch calls hims a traitor for it? Christ that is horrible.


this.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36406 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:11 pm to
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oleyeller



you are literally no better than the people at Penn State who put football over the lives of little boys
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:14 pm to
Wooooow.....Butch is DONE.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58199 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:16 pm to
Barring any new developments with much more concrete info Butch will be fine........sorry TBird
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:17 pm to
So do the Tenn fans believe that Butch didn't say it?
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:18 pm to
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literally no better than the people at Penn State who put football over the lives of little boys





because im fine with them beating a documented liars arse? When boyles can keep a story straight i will start believing him. He is on record as lying under oath, changing his story over and over. Pos who was butthurt his ole lady was fukn aj johnson and convinced her to go to police and cry rape. There is more to the story than what is in the news today.

Butch aint going anywhere! VOLS, BITCH
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

So do the Tenn fans believe that Butch didn't say it?



absolutely not.. because the one saying he did.. is on record of lying under oath.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:19 pm to
FSUTwitter is getting a run for it's money.
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