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re: Bulls fire Thibs
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:03 pm to RTR America
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:03 pm to RTR America
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And what do they have to show for that? Like one conference finals appearance in a historically bad conference.
their best player has been consistently hurt the last several years.
no team is going to go far when something like that happens.
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:04 pm to TotesMcGotes
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You can be healthy and overworked. Come playoff time their main guys are fricked.
Dude, they have overachieved in the playoffs more than any other team during Thibs' tenure.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:05 pm to RTR America
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I'm not sure if this makes a good case for Thibs or a bad one
I saw you make a similar argument for the Grizz against GSW just this morning....
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:07 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
It what realm is that the same argument? Did Dave Joerger suddenly start overplaying players? Did Joerger's minute distribution cause Conley to break his face?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:08 pm to Dr RC
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no team is going to go far when something like that happens.
They had a player finish 4th in the MVP voting last season and win DPOY. They got knocked out by the Wizards in like 5 or 6 in the first round.
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@SherwoodStrauss
Anyway, the Bulls are dysfunctional, but 2 series wins in your lost 4 appearances (In the EAST) will get ya fired from good orgs
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@HPbasketball
I’ve thought the Bulls lacked a playoff gear, Thibs ran them down, was reckless with players’ career health, and limited offensively.
I'm not a crazy person...
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:08 pm to RTR America
Pau averaged under 32 minutes per game in the playoffs. Yet again, fact doesn't fit the parroted argument.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:10 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:12 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Dear god
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:12 pm to RTR America
Great, their best player and biggest scoring threat was still not on the floor for massive chunks of the last several years and was not able to go for the playoffs last year. Noah isn't going to carry a team in the playoffs and you know it. If you can't recognize how the loss of Rose has really put them in a bind the last several years I don't even know what the point of talking to you about this is b/c you clearly live in a 2K induced fantasy land and know frick all about basketball.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:13 pm to Dr RC
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If you can't recognize how the loss of Rose has really put them in a bind the last several years I don't even know what the point of talking to you about this is b/c you clearly live in a 2K induced fantasy land and know frick all about basketball.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:14 pm to RTR America
laugh it up but you you're the one that looks like a fool.
herp derp, Noah was good on D doe. derp derp
herp derp, Noah was good on D doe. derp derp
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:14 pm to RTR America
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Dear god
God can't help you here. He knows the truth when he sees it.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:18 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Like I seriously cannot grasp what point you are trying to make
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:20 pm to RTR America
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Like I seriously cannot grasp what point you are trying to make
Sounds like a personal problem, but I'll do my best to help you.
You are arguing that Pau got hurt because Thibs rode him too hard. I pointed out that his counterpart (and brother) on the Teddy Bears played more playoff minutes than him. This illustrates that minutes were not the cause of his injury, just like they weren't the cause of Rose's injury.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:25 pm to RTR America
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And what do they have to show for that? Like one conference finals appearance in a historically bad conference.
He's a good coach. I just no longer think he is top 5-10 coach like I did in the past.
You think Tom Thibodeau would make the best assistant coach in the league. Well, no shite. He's been one of the top head coaches in the league the past 5 years. He has also dealt with a myriad of injuries during his tenure to very key players.
You ask what does he have to show for it? How many teams over the past 5 years were able to beat the Heat out of the Eastern Conference? That says more about Miami and their stacked teams opposed to Thibs' coaching abilities.
Thibs is the NBA version of Tom Coughlin... without the rings and in a league where parity is less prevalent. Thibs is a great coach... but his style doesn't suit everyone.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:26 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I made a joke. That is why 
was included.
You pointed out that a 30 year old who has basically been injured once in his entire career and is in the best shape of his life played more minutes than a 34 year old that has spent the better part of 3 straight seasons in LA dealing with injury after injury.
No, but you could point to his dropoff of production in the playoffs
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I pointed out that his counterpart (and brother) on the Teddy Bears played more playoff minutes than him.
You pointed out that a 30 year old who has basically been injured once in his entire career and is in the best shape of his life played more minutes than a 34 year old that has spent the better part of 3 straight seasons in LA dealing with injury after injury.
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This illustrates that minutes were not the cause of his injury, just like they weren't the cause of Rose's injury.
No, but you could point to his dropoff of production in the playoffs
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:27 pm to RTR America
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I just no longer think he is top 5-10 coach like I did in the past.
You can name 10 coaches better than Thibs?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:28 pm to papz
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Well, no shite. He's been one of the top head coaches in the league the past 5 years
A top coach would win more than two playoff series in a historically bad conference.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:29 pm to RTR America
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No, but you could point to his dropoff of production in the playoffs
Correlation =/= causation
Posted on 5/28/15 at 12:29 pm to RTR America
i mean, its not like hes been decimated by injuries. and the majority of the time, hes been eliminated by lebron
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