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Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:31 pm to Iona Fan Man
Since he came into the NFL Jairus Byrd has more INTs in the same period than Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed.
Jairus Byrd is the best safety in the NFL, right?
Jairus Byrd is the best safety in the NFL, right?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:56 pm to dukke v
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Kellen Winslow?????
Kellen Winslow couldn't block for shite and had injury problems that shortened his career. Receiving-wise sure he's there with Sharpe, Gonzalez and Mackey, but as far as career and all-around TE, he's not.
This post was edited on 8/4/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:57 pm to TheChosenOne
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Kellen Winslow couldn't block for shite and had injury problems that shortened his career.
Go watch the playoff game against Miami in 1981.......... Then get back to me...........
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:04 pm to dukke v
I watched it, he showed a lot of guts and heart...he's still not in the conversation with the other 3 for best TE ever.
shite, Ditka and Ozzie Newsome may have better arguments than Kellen Winslow.
shite, Ditka and Ozzie Newsome may have better arguments than Kellen Winslow.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:11 pm to Iona Fan Man
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Because I should use points scored when evaluating better kicker or running back?
I never said that. I just find it funny that you used rushing yards for RBs but never mentioned receiving yards for Rice/Gonzalez. You continue to bring up receptions but ignore the fact the Rice got 15 YPC and Gonzalez is at 11.
When Rice retired he had 197 TDs and Carter was 2nd with 130. That's 52% more. Moss is up to 156 now. Still 26% more for Rice.
Gonzalez is at 103 TDs and Gates is at 83. 24% more for Gonzalez.
Rice retired with 22895 yards. Second highest at the time was Brown with 14934. 53% higher for Rice. TO is now up to 15934. Still 44% higher for Rice.
Gonzalez is at 14268. Sharpe had 10060. 42% higher for Gonzalez.
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Which is more dynamic?
Obviously Rice.
Rice has been retired 9 years. In 9 years Witten, Gates, and possibly Graham and Gronk will make those percentage gaps Gonzalez has much much smaller.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:35 pm to 1ranter1
Jamie Moyer has like 100 more wins than Sandy Koufax. Therefore, Moyer is clearly the better pitcher and you must have an associate's degree if you think I am wrong.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:47 pm to lsutigers1992
this is a great thread
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:49 pm to Iona Fan Man
Btw, Deion Sanders is the best NFL player of all time.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:51 pm to bobbyray21
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Btw, Deion Sanders is the best NFL player of all time.
The BEST Cover Corner for sure...........
To bad he was scared to tackle anyone.........
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:52 pm to Iona Fan Man
Not only no but phuoc no.
Man, are you high or just stupid.
Man, are you high or just stupid.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:55 pm to dukke v
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The BEST Cover Corner for sure...........
To bad he was scared to tackle anyone.........
He dove at their knees. It worked.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 2:59 pm to bobbyray21
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Btw, Deion Sanders is the best NFL player of all time.
Jesus talk about an off the wall, wrong hijack.
It sounds like something your avatar would say.
ETA: Joe Frazier disease is horrible.
This post was edited on 8/4/13 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 8/4/13 at 3:05 pm to Kcrad
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Jesus talk about an off the wall, wrong hijack.
Off the wall, huh?
Interesting. But I'm actually serious. I think Deion is the best NFL player of all time.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 3:07 pm to bobbyray21
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But I'm actually serious. I think Deion is the best NFL player of all time.
Come on man............... You know better........ Top Ten??? YES........
Posted on 8/4/13 at 3:15 pm to bobbyray21
He was great with a capital G, but we will just disagree.
You're not a Falcons fan, are you?
Who was that white WR for the Saints who caught the ball on Sanders, than outran him for about 50 yards.
I think he's the one who beat someone's arse with a golf club.
You're not a Falcons fan, are you?
Who was that white WR for the Saints who caught the ball on Sanders, than outran him for about 50 yards.
I think he's the one who beat someone's arse with a golf club.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 3:17 pm to Iona Fan Man
I don't think he is, but people who are acting like it is an insane idea are just thinking with their biased opinion.
Tony G changed the position of TE completely. He is really the father of the new breed of TE's in todays game. It is also impressive that his career as good as it is with the shitty team he spent with most of his career.
I think easily best TE to ever play the game. Could be thrown in talks with best player, but I don't know if you can give it to him.
Tony G changed the position of TE completely. He is really the father of the new breed of TE's in todays game. It is also impressive that his career as good as it is with the shitty team he spent with most of his career.
I think easily best TE to ever play the game. Could be thrown in talks with best player, but I don't know if you can give it to him.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 3:19 pm to dukke v
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Come on man............... You know better........ Top Ten??? YES........
Here is the argument for Deion. Ask 10 guys on the street the following questions.
Who is the best QB of all time? You'll get at least 4 different answers.
Who is the best RB of all time? Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, and Emmitt Smith will likely be mentioned. If not Gale Sayers or Walter Payton.
Who is the best linebacker of all time? You'll get several answers: Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis, Junior Seau, Singletary, etc.
Who is the best Safety of all time? Ed Reed, Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson, who else would get mentioned.
Who is the best DL of all time? Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Jevon Kearse, Deacon Jones.
Who is the best receiver of all time? Most votes for Jerry Rice. But you'll get a sprinkle of votes for Randy Moss.
Who is the best cornerback of all time? ONE ANSWER. Deion Sanders.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 3:20 pm to Kcrad
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You're not a Falcons fan, are you?
God no.
I have no NFL allegiance.
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