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re: Best NFL player of all Time: Tony Gonzales?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:42 am to Iona Fan Man
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:42 am to Iona Fan Man
haha
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:43 am to Paul Allen
Jimmy Graham is gonna shatter Gonzos records.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:45 am to Rubix Cube
quote:
Rob Gronkowski is going to shatter Jimmy Grahams records as he shatters Tony Gonzos records
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:17 am to wildtigercat93
Julio Jones is the GOAT
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:41 am to hiltacular
quote:
Lol you can't just say he isn't the best TE and not list who is
That's what I was thinking.
The only ones I think could be in the conversation are Shannon Sharpe and John Mackey.
He's better than Sharpe, but Mackey is a different story. Mackey's numbers aren't there because of the offenses at that time, but just like Gonzalez, he helped evolve the TE position and he was still a physical run blocker.
This post was edited on 8/4/13 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:42 am to Chad504boy
2 Chainz = GOAT
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:49 am to Iona Fan Man
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:08 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
Rob Gronkowski is going to shatter his forarm, as Jimmy Grahams shatters Tony Gonzos records
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:14 am to Sophandros
John Mackey
Kellen Winslow
Ozzie Newsome
Mike Ditka
Kellen Winslow
Ozzie Newsome
Mike Ditka
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:17 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
NFL player of all Time: Tony Gonzales
quote:
Tony Gonzalez isn't the best TE ever.
Not sure which statement is dumber
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:39 am to lsutigers1992
quote:Saints fans in any thread that involves the Falcons = GOAT
Next thing you know, Falcons fans will say Michael Vick is the greatest QB ever because he ran for the most yards.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:49 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Rob Gronkowski is going to shatter his forearm fisting some slut in celebration of Shattering Jimmy Graham and Tony Gonzales records
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:54 am to Lester Earl
quote:
btw, no
1206- Rice
1149- Gonzo
not sure where the spreadsheet error occurred
1985-2000(16 years)
Rice 1,281
1997-2012(16 years)
Gonzo 1,242
First four years in the league
Rice-264
Gonzo-261
First five years in the league
Rice-346
Gonzo-334
39 catch diff over 16 years, 2.4 catches/year
the stats are pretty similar, the argument is simple, the most dynamic difference at position.
Like FG kickers
Morton 565
Gary 538
Hansen 495
3 within 10% of leader
RBs
smith 18,355
payton 16,726
sanders 15,269
3 within 20%
What stands out for Rice, he was 40% better than the next best WR, "Huge", and why he's commonly stated to be the best of all time.
Rice 1,549
Harrison 1,102
Carter 1,101
but then let's look at TE, a position that doesn't carry the same respect as the other skill positions.
Gonzo 1,242
Sharpe 815
Witten 806
Gonzo, who is still playing is 52.4% better the the next best.
That much difference at that one position, to me, shows a solid argument as he being considered the GOAT, the only reason people won't latch on is due to their disrespect of the tight-end position IMHO.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:55 am to wildtigercat93
I like that one
Posted on 8/4/13 at 12:02 pm to Iona Fan Man
quote:
RBs smith 18,355 payton 16,726 sanders 15,269 3 within 20%
So you use yards when comparing RBs, but make no mention of Rice having 7000 more receiving yards than second place?
Jerry Rice has 197 career TD receptions. Gonzalez has 103. How about you figure out the percentages on that.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 12:52 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
Jerry Rice.
yeah i agree. i dont actually think the best nfl player ever is tony g and i know the OP doesnt actually think it either. it is interesting, though, to make the case of separation of themselves from the rest of the dudes at their position as the means for being best ever.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:00 pm to DOKA
quote:
Come on dude. Comments like this make it almost certain that your ceiling was associates degree
Actually, I'm a dissertation away from Ph.D., thumb dick.
But yes, explain to me how the greatest tight end of all time isn't even in the game in short yardage situations and is universally considered an average to below average blocker.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:07 pm to TheChosenOne
quote:
The only ones I think could be in the conversation are Shannon Sharpe and John Mackey.
Kellen Winslow?????
Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:23 pm to 1ranter1
Because I should use points scored when evaluating better kicker or running back?
Ill check when I get home....but if you can feel free to do it first
Rice tds vs next best wr tds
Gonzo tds vs next best te tds
Which is more dynamic?
Ill check when I get home....but if you can feel free to do it first
Rice tds vs next best wr tds
Gonzo tds vs next best te tds
Which is more dynamic?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 1:27 pm to Iona Fan Man
quote:
Which is more dynamic?
If you think that Tony is better than Jerry. You are just stupid....... Rice MADE Montana GREAT. Tony has made NOBODY great.........
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