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re: Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:41 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:41 am to Lester Earl
If you want to say the anticipation of contact alters the follow through, which alters the shot, fine. However, if you are saying the actual contact alters the shot when the shooter does not anticipate the contact and performs his normal shooting motion, you are implying the shooter has some telekinetic power. I don't think Kobe can move matter with his mind.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:47 am to slackster
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The second the ball has physically left the hand, there is no longer any possible way to affect the shot.
No. No. No. No. Look at the second picture I posted(I'm not saying it a foul in the pic, but that is how these fouls usually play out).
You have a shooter jumping into his shot, and a defender running out. The shooter goes up to shoot, and the defender is a millisecond late, hitting the hand/arm whatever, it can affect the shot. The hole process of the shot, from the jump, to the release, to the follow through, to the landing, is important to a shooter.
Do y'all really think a shot ends the second the ball leaves the hand? Seriously feel like I'm in the twilight zone here.
If someone were to design a machine that grabbed your arm or hand the exact instant the ball was released from your hand on a shot, do you honestly think it woldnt affect the shot? Meaning the machine is not going to allow your wrist to "break plane" after you release.
Do it right now at your desk. Pretend you are shooting a basketball. Now imagine your wrist angle at a 120deg(about where your wrist is at release), instead of the normal 45deg where EVERY shooter finishes. You really think you can shoot like that? Yea, ok
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:53 am to Lester Earl
the anatomy of a shot. You're gonna tell me that if you stop the progression of Curry's arm movement in pic 3 AT THAT VERY MOMENT, that he is the same shooter? I mean the ball has left his hand!!!!!
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:57 am to Lester Earl
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touching the hand after the shot is in the air
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affects the follow thru, which is very important
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:58 am to Bunta
The follow through is super important to a jump shot...
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:04 am to RTR America
Yeah. Every shooter has a rhythm. You mess up that rhythm they are off. You put in there them not being able to snap their wrist and not completing their full jump without impediment and any shooter will be thrown. That's why 4 point plays are more rare since the shot is altered.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:04 am to RTR America
The force of your hand on the ball results in the follow through, that's why it's important. Once the ball leaves your hand you are no longer exerting force on the ball.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:05 am to tigeroarz1
I think the rule encourages good defense.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:07 am to Epic Cajun
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The force of your hand on the ball results in the follow through, that's why it's important. Once the ball leaves your hand you are no longer exerting force on the ball.
It's like some of these guys have never taken a physics class in their life.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:13 am to Epic Cajun
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The force of your hand on the ball results in the follow through
secondarily, yes.
you're also trying to get proper rotation on the ball (promotes a follow through), which in turn affects accuracy.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:17 am to Goldrush25
Even though the follow through is important to a shooter, if you aren't touching the ball anymore then it's impossible to affect the shot.
If you miss, it comes more from anticipation than anything.
If you miss, it comes more from anticipation than anything.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:26 am to PrimeTime Money
holy schit. this must be a special olympics thread.
the shot is clearly not "altered" if the defender touches the shooter's hand after the ball has been released. The follow through is totally irrelevant because the ball has already left the shooter's hand.
Some folks have to be trolling here.
the shot is clearly not "altered" if the defender touches the shooter's hand after the ball has been released. The follow through is totally irrelevant because the ball has already left the shooter's hand.
Some folks have to be trolling here.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:28 am to Sofa King Crimson
Seriously go shoot some one handed shots and smack yourself after the ball leaves your hand. It matters.
Or shoot some shots without following through. Shits hard.
Or shoot some shots without following through. Shits hard.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:30 am to RTR America
Because you are anticipating the contact. It's physically impossible to affect the shot once you have let the ball go.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:36 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:can we just all agree on this, the most obvious thing you'll read all day on TD? Lol.
Even though the follow through is important to a shooter, if you aren't touching the ball anymore then it's impossible to affect the shot.
If you miss, it comes more from anticipation than anything.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:40 am to PrimeTime Money
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Because you are anticipating the contact. It's physically impossible to affect the shot once you have let the ball go.
Exactly right
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:42 am to Sofa King Crimson
Is the hand clap in front of a shooter's face a foul by NBA standards?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:44 am to Lester Earl
quote:If you have no clue you are about to be touched, your hand could get shot by a bullet after releasing a basketball or throwing a football and the shot/pass would not be effected at all
then why follow through at all?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:44 am to Black n Gold
Compare it to a pitcher throwing a baseball. The follow through is super important in the mechanics of pitching just like shooting a basketball.....
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:46 am to Corn Dawg Nation
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Compare it to a pitcher throwing a baseball. The follow through is super important in the mechanics of pitching just like shooting a basketball.....
and the pitch would not be affected in the slightest bit, either, unless the pitcher anticipated being touched after the pitch.
yeezus
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