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re: Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:46 am to Sofa King Crimson
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:46 am to Sofa King Crimson
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The follow through is totally irrelevant because the ball has already left the shooter's hand.
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:48 am to Lester Earl
quote:Dude, how you believe this is astounding
Wow. Do y'all even watch NBA games? It happens often. Especially on 3point shots. Yes, hitting the arm a split second after the ball been released can affect a shot. I cant believe im arguing this.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:50 am to Sofa King Crimson
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and the pitch would not be affected in the slightest bit
Yes it would because it is a learned motion. People aren't doing things that are completely unnecessary if they don't have to do it. It is ingrained in the shooter/pitcher. These people practice the same motion millions of times to make it a science.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
After a shooter releases the ball, a meteorite could come and blow his right hand off and the shot will not be changed or altered in anyway. Lester, I am dissapoint son. Rummel needs to fire their physics teacher
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:51 am to BuckeyesAndBulldogs
quote:Holy shite so much stupidity
Yes it would because it is a learned motion. People aren't doing things that are completely unnecessary if they don't have to do it. It is ingrained in the shooter/pitcher. These people practice the same motion millions of times to make it a science.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:51 am to tigeroarz1
A shot comes in a split second. The refs have a hard enough job seeing when the contact takes place. That's why they can only assume the foul happens in the act of shooting the ball. You can't tell if the wrist or hand was hit during the actual shot or after it was releasef in real time. And I have rarely seen a foul if you hit the player after you can tell the ball has been released.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 10:52 am
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:52 am to Sofa King Crimson
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and the pitch would not be affected in the slightest bit, either, unless the pitcher anticipated being touched after the pitch.
and a QB throwing a football?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:53 am to BuckeyesAndBulldogs
That doesn't change the fact that once the ball leaves your hand, you are no longer exerting force on it. Therefore, anything that happens to you after the ball is no longer in contact with you is irrelevant.
The follow through is important because you are using a precise amount of force to shoot the ball, the follow through is just a result of the force exerted. It in itself is irrelevant to the shot, once the ball leaves your hand.
This is fricking science
The follow through is important because you are using a precise amount of force to shoot the ball, the follow through is just a result of the force exerted. It in itself is irrelevant to the shot, once the ball leaves your hand.
This is fricking science
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:54 am to Lester Earl
quote:Not affected in the slightest bit. Not even a millimeter
and a QB throwing a football?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:55 am to Epic Cajun
quote:It is really embarrassing for some people in here
That doesn't change the fact that once the ball leaves your hand, you are no longer exerting force on it. Therefore, anything that happens to you after the ball is no longer in contact with you is irrelevant.
The follow through is important because you are using a precise amount of force to shoot the ball, the follow through is just a result of the force exerted. It in itself is irrelevant to the shot, once the ball leaves your hand.
This is fricking science
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:55 am to Sofa King Crimson
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and the pitch would not be affected in the slightest bit, either, unless the pitcher anticipated being touched after the pitch.
Why does the shooter have an inherent right to follow through on his shot? If a defender is chest to chest with the shooter and has his hands straight up, isn't the shooter encroaching on his right to that space?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:56 am to lsupride87
Until LE concedes that the examples he's talking about come from the shooter anticipating contact, this may be the low point in LE's long MSB career.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:57 am to shel311
quote:I refuse to believe that he doesnt understand it.
Until LE concedes that the examples he's talking about come from the shooter anticipating contact, this may be the low point in LE's long MSB career.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:57 am to lsupride87
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After a shooter releases the ball, a meteorite could come and blow his right hand off and the shot will not be changed or altered in anyway. Lester, I am dissapoint son. Rummel needs to fire their physics teacher
Right. It's funny no one addressed the picture and post with Steph Curry from the last page.
Apparently you think that you can shoot a basketball the same whether your follow through is like
(WRIST ANGLE AT TIME OF RELEASE)
(NORMAL FOLLOW THRU)
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
quote:Dude, this is getting out of hand. If you dont anticipate the contact. Your motion up until the release of the ball will be exactly the same. Which is all that matters
Lester Earl
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:59 am to lsupride87
If you don't think routine is a thing then you are stupid. Plain and simple. Also, that was to that isolated post, not the original question. I understand physics.
This is what I said on page 2.
This is what I said on page 2.
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Also, there is a feel as a shooter. If someone gets up in your grill as you shoot you shoot a little different. You know when someone is closing in and goes for the block if they have a chance to do it. That will alter the shot and is less likely to go in, and is a great play if you block the shot. I pretty much think this rule is a punishment for the defender missing the block since he more than likely altered the shot, but fricked up and missed the ball and hit the shooters hand. It is to help the shooter and to make sure the defender does not just sell out and hit the shooter's hand all the time. No need to add this to the game.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:01 am to Epic Cajun
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That doesn't change the fact that once the ball leaves your hand, you are no longer exerting force on it. Therefore, anything that happens to you after the ball is no longer in contact with you is irrelevant.
Except that you are exerting force on the ball for accuracy and trajectory.
You're trying to shot the ball into a hoop. You aren't just randomly throwing it in the air.
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the follow through is just a result of the force exerted.
Again, no its fricking not. Well it is, but its secondary to putting rotation on the basketball. Try putting rotation on a basketball without a follow through. Try shooting an accurate ball with no rotation.
There's a reason this method of shooting has evolved to what it is today.
It's not simply "to exert force".
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:01 am to BuckeyesAndBulldogs
quote:HOLY frick. If you dont know contact is coming YOUR ROUTINE WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME UNTIL RELEASE.
If you don't think routine is a thing then you are stupid. Plain and simple
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:03 am to PrimeTime Money
RTR is a known idiot/troll.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
quote:after its out of your hand, without touching it?
Except that you are exerting force on the ball for accuracy and trajectory.
quote:and you're arguing that you can do this stuff without touching the ball any longer.
Try putting rotation on a basketball without a follow through. Try shooting an accurate ball with no rotation.
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