re: Ball has been exposed by Fox tonight

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I really do wonder if anyone who posts in this kind of thread actually has watched the NBA in 15 years.

Ball's game translates ideally for the NBA-- a low volume efficiency scorer with the height and vision to get others good looks, as well as a consistent enough shot to not harm offensive spacing?

You couldn't design a more ideal guy for the NBA, offensively. Defensively, he's not Gary Payton reincarnated-- but who is?

Fox, on the other hand, is going to have more growing pains in the NBA, and the John Wall comparison is apt-- except I think Fox has a more reliable shot than Wall did when Wall entered the league. He's going to have to learn how to play against bigger physical guards a bit, as well.

Both will be excellent pros, but Ball is undoubtedly more NBA-tailor made than Fox.

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Yep.

Fox is apparently in God mode right now in the tournament, but Ball and Fultz are most likely better suited to make an immediate impact in the NBA.

You guys been listening to his dad too much I'm not saying the guy sucks but that shot is going to be an issue and he can't play a lick of defense. He'll get assists but does it b really matter if you can't stay in front of your man
And to be frank the two times I've sat down and watched him play the entire game he quits like a little bitch when things aren't going his way no fight whatsoever.

Yeah, he looks incredible. I love watching him play. Just think his style is one that takes a bit longer to translate.

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You guys been listening to his dad too much

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No I've just watched him play

Yes, he's not a great defender. At the same time there's pretty much no one in the country who can stay in front of Fox

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And to be frank the two times I've sat down and watched him play the entire game he quits like a little bitch when things aren't going his way no fight whatsoever.

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Whew, those two times must have been exhausting.

Ball has played all year, against some pretty decent competition, at as high a level as a college point guard can play the game.

It isn't an accident or chance that he's regarded as the best prospect in this draft. The kid is fine-- there are a lot of guys who struggle staying in front of Fox, because that's Fox's elite NBA ready skill-- blazing speed, like John Wall before him-- so not being able to consistently stay in front of Fox is hardly a viable reason not to take him with the top pick.

Ball has been at least adequate as a defender, and has all the tools you look for for a competent NBA defender of his position. The idea that being out manned and outmatched against a deep Kentucky team somehow makes him a suspect, is just silly.

You can't compare ball and fox, 2 different types of guards. Fox is a score first guy, lonzo pass first.

This game reminded me of ucla's 2 losses to Arizona. Ball was the best player on the court, but overall huge talent discrepancy against ucla. Ball makes his teammates a lot better than they are. This was a sub 500 team last year.

Because lonzo doesn't need to score to impact a game, he should be fine in the NBA

i think he's a better athlete than Williams.

i also think his ceiling is, at the very least, as high as Williams during his prime in utah.

Best talent in this draft class is Josh Jackson. The true #1 from what I've seen.

Ball's shooting motion would terrify me if I was thinking about taking him. Seeing it in person tonight from close up and my worries about him being able to get that off against NBA guys grew. He passed out of so many looks because he got interrupted mid janky-arse motion.

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BTW, Fox's 39 points is the most by a freshman in the NCAA Tournament, ever.

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And that was with making no 3's in the game