re: Athlonsports:CFB's Top Fifty QBs of the BCS Era

Top 12 no order should be

Vince Young
Cam Newton
Robert Griffin
Colt Brennan
Michael Vick
Kellen Moore
Andrew Luck
Michael Bishop
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Colt McCoy
Johnny Manziel

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Tebow was a part of 2 NC teams, but he only "led" the gators to 1 IMO.

VY has an undefeated season on his resume, and Tebow doesn't. I think it's close, but I don't think the first NC should be given very much weight. He was a fullback that season. Ryan Perilloux was more important to the LSU NC the next season, but nobody will ever say RP "led" LSU to the 2007 NC.

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This talking down Tebow in his first year has gotten to be dumb conventional wisdom but is incredibly wrong.

Tebow was an absolutely essential part of the 2006 championship and probably the team's most valuable player. He was second on the team in rushing, scored two TDs in the BCS championship game, against Tennessee he rallied the team to their go ahead score, and against LSU he accounted for all three of their touchdowns.

His accomplishments for the following three years (2007-2009) are simply monumental. He broke Herschel Walker's TD records, setting records for passing efficiency, and was quite simply an absolute beast for FOUR years of college play.

FWIW, one guy I don't like but would have to mention for the same reasoning as Cam Newton is Michael Vick. I guess maybe some people around here are a little too young to remember but watching him almost single handedly win a national championship in 1999 was mind boggling. He went up against a collection of some of the best college talent you will ever see on those FSU teams and held that team close for around three quarters.

My top four would probably be:

1) Tebow
2) Vince Young
3) Cam Newton
4) Michael Vick

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the whole "leinart benefited from surrounding talent" is garbage. so did dorsey, mccarron, mcelroy etc. compare leinart's career numbers to those guys and leinart's numbers are far better.

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great point. I never understood why sucking in the pros should have any bearing on a players college career. Leinart was awesome in college...he's not the only guy that didn't pan out. VY, Tebow, Weinke, wuerffel etc. the list goes on and on but for whatever reason Leinart never seems to get any credit from many CFB fans.

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Colt Brennan

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Leinart was awesome in college but he was overshadowed while on the field by the other players around him. It would be wrong to leave him off the list but I don't know where I rank him compared to say Peyton Manning, Danny W, etc

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if grading by college career only.... 1. leinart 2. wuerffel 3. manning

all 3 guys were surrounded by talented skill players

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Leinart was awesome in college but he was overshadowed while on the field by the other players around him

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is that why he won a heisman in 2004, before any of those teammates that overshadowed him?

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Uh, I think it's implied that a full career weighs into this.

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Cam Newton's single season at Auburn was better than most guy's careers.

Tebow scored 13 touchdowns on the 2006 Florida team in absolutely crucial situations that won them games. He was not a bit player, he was an essential part of their success. FWIW I do get annoyed with people who pretend he did nothing in 2006... IMO most of those tend to be butt-hurt LSU fans who are just mad about him beating us three of the four years he was there.

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Cam Newton's single season at Auburn was better than most guy's careers.

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And didn't JFF break some of Cam's records in one season? As a freshman?

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And didn't JFF break some of Cam's records in one season? As a freshman?

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national title > third in the division