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re: Article Drops About Oregon St Ace Felony Molestation Conviction
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:36 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:36 pm to chalmetteowl
Yeah but kicking them out the tournament punishes the other 15 kids or whatever on their roster that had nothing to do with it. This pitcher will have so much shite storm and punishment from this he will give a frick less about OSU not playing baseball
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:50 pm to chalmetteowl
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A kid HAD something to do with this, along with the institution
but he's already been adjudicated
i mean i understand the hesitation about him individually, but he didn't commit a crime while in college that the college knew about and swept under the rug or something. it makes no logical or rational sense to punish him at this point, let alone the entire team.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Was not updating his sex offender registration not a crime? Did Oregon State have all the information they need to make an informed decision on admitting him? Why are we just hearing about this on the eve of the super regionals?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:13 pm to chalmetteowl
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Why are we just hearing about this on the eve of the super regionals?
because everyone in the know obviously hoped we never would
Not getting to his check in or whatever it was indicates a serious disregard for rectifying what he did. You have to make that if that is what is keeping a lid on this.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Doesn't he have to send flyer out to his neighbors when he moves? Surprised no one caught it then. I'm guessing most people familiar with him knew about this.
Can't believe he didn't have a lawyer and publicist on retainer when he was staring at that much money in the draft to protect his draft stock.
Can't believe he didn't have a lawyer and publicist on retainer when he was staring at that much money in the draft to protect his draft stock.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:17 pm to chalmetteowl
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I really think the institution should not play this weekend... Either they had to know, or they didn't do enough to check
They knew. They just didn't care and figured he was a good enough prospect that they would take him on. Technically they didn't violate any rules, but it blows my mind that a coach thought this was an excusable action.
Kiffin did the same thing with a recruit who raped his female relative with a plunger. I believe his name was Daniel Hood.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:27 pm to Keys Open Doors
Honestly their coach and AD should be fired. How have they gone all day without any statement?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean i understand the hesitation about him individually, but he didn't commit a crime while in college that the college knew about and swept under the rug or something. it makes no logical or rational sense to punish him at this point, let alone the entire team.
I love the type who try and spin crap. He's a sex offender and molested a 4 year old for 2 years. End game, that's a disorder, and a dangerous one. But spin that shite dawg.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:44 pm to Rhino5
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that's a disorder, and a dangerous one. But spin that shite dawg.
obviously you missed the data earlier where the rates of recidivism for his type of act are very low
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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obviously you missed the data earlier where the rates of recidivism for his type of act are very low
Yeah bud I'm sure he just said "yep I'll never think of molesting a 4 year old again." Completely fixed since he was charged.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:50 pm to Sevendust912
Just because he "did his time" doesn't mean that hes free from any further consequences of such action.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:51 pm to Rhino5
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Research shows that the vast majority of juveniles convicted of sex crimes do not reoffend in subsequent years.
After about three years, the likelihood of reoffending is "very small," said psychologist Michael Caldwell, who lectures at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
At five years, the recidivism rate for another sex crime hovers at 2.75 percent, according to a study that Caldwell published in 2016. That's because juvenile sex offenders tend to mature and respond well to intervention, Caldwell said.
"It's referred to as a redemption threshold, the point at which the person is no more at risk than any other individual walking around on the street," he said.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:52 pm to southernelite
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Just because he "did his time" doesn't mean that hes free from any further consequences of such action.
sure but "prevent him from playing a college sport" doesn't seem to have any real rational nexus to his crime or the anticipated punishment, and it certainly shouldn't create a vicarious liability for his teammates
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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sure but "prevent him from playing a college sport" doesn't seem to have any real rational nexus to his crime or the anticipated punishment, and it certainly shouldn't create a vicarious liability for his teammates
So give the rapist a scholarship? And potential millions? BTW, you must be appalled at the university president coming out with an official statement calling it "very disturbing."
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't think keeping him on the team and having him be an enormous distraction if they win is a great situation for his teammates either. It's a shitty situation all around for them
I understand what you're saying though even if I don't totally agree with it
I understand what you're saying though even if I don't totally agree with it
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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sure but "prevent him from playing a college sport" doesn't seem to have any real rational nexus to his crime or the anticipated punishment, and it certainly shouldn't create a vicarious liability for his teammates
He raped a 4 year old for 2 years, if you don't see an issue with that then you're fricked up in the head. This isn't a DUI or public intoxication, it's a long term issue that doesn't go away for the victim or the perv.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:08 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
just as a generic question (i get into discussions about the registry in general on the poli board b/c it's very, very fricked up and keeps expanding), at what point do you think society should be satisfied with the punishment? obviously the one extreme is to torture and kill him and the other is he shouldn't have been punished at all. the balance is somewhere in the middle
i'm not defending what he did. what he did was terrible. but at some point there has to be an end to punishment where we let people who do commit crimes enter society. i mean look at his case. the data shows the intervention done has a very high success rate. isn't that sort of rehabilitation what we want out of our punitive solutions?
i'm not defending what he did. what he did was terrible. but at some point there has to be an end to punishment where we let people who do commit crimes enter society. i mean look at his case. the data shows the intervention done has a very high success rate. isn't that sort of rehabilitation what we want out of our punitive solutions?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:09 pm to Rhino5
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if you don't see an issue with that then you're fricked up in the head.
wait
what?
where did i say that he should never have been prosecuted or punished for his terrible crime?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
I see nothing wrong with the death penalty for molestation of a child. Imo this is the worst crime that hat can be committed.
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