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Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:30 pm to burdman
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:31 pm to burdman
Lebron would have got called for an offensive foul for that tonight. FACT 
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:32 pm to lsupride87
Of course. Only GOAT's get away with shite like that.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:32 pm to lsupride87
Not arguing that.
I like MJ and LBJ and I like that shot
I like MJ and LBJ and I like that shot
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:32 pm to slackster
quote:
Are you one of those that gets all excited that Jordan was 6-6 in the finals and argues that is a greater accomplishment than someone going 7-9?
More fair question would be 6-6 or 6-8. Everyone would rather win 7 Finals over 6
Those 2 Finals losses don't look good on his record and I think going 6-6 does mean more than you're implying.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:33 pm to auburnu008
On the topic of tonight's game, along with the 8 point game against the Mavs in '11, LeBron's not the type of player to force things when he's struggling so along with him playing limited minutes the point total isn't shocking.
At any rate I'd hardly base my opinion of a player's career on one or two games regardless of the circumstances.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:35 pm to Sho Nuff
quote:And in my opinion, that makes someone really stupid. Both won the same amount, but one player went to the finals while the other player lost in the 1st or second round. It is literally mind-boggling to me
Those 2 Finals losses don't look good on his record and I think going 6-6 does mean more than you're implying.
ETA: not trying to call you stupid
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:36 pm to Sho Nuff
It's not a question at all. Are you serious?
How could it somehow be better to lose in an earlier round than to lose in the finals?
How could it somehow be better to lose in an earlier round than to lose in the finals?
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:39 pm to UMRealist
I don't view NBA championships like I do free throws. The more the better, regardless of how many times you went. Additionally, championships are obviously a team effort, so I believe it they should be used as one of many tools when measuring the greats.
This page or so of logical talk is nice to see in a LBJ thread. Let me derail it: LeBron taking that 2007 squad to the Finals is more impressive than the 2011 flop is detrimental. I'd argue that it is more impressive than any team accomplishment Jordan ever had.
Full disclosure: I defend LeBron incessantly on this board, but I unequivocally believe the Jordan is the best player of all time until proven otherwise.
This page or so of logical talk is nice to see in a LBJ thread. Let me derail it: LeBron taking that 2007 squad to the Finals is more impressive than the 2011 flop is detrimental. I'd argue that it is more impressive than any team accomplishment Jordan ever had.
Full disclosure: I defend LeBron incessantly on this board, but I unequivocally believe the Jordan is the best player of all time until proven otherwise.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:41 pm to shel311
I don't know I think he didn't want to have to shoot free throws for the win tonight and that's not really a new thing with him. He usually pulls up a J when he takes final shots.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:42 pm to imraged
I didn't say anything other than it's a more fair question to ask 6-6 vs 6-8. Not 7-9. As far as my second sentence, I am saying going undefeated is very impressive as opposed to going 6-8. The first Finals you can't say much as it was LeBron only. But the 2011 Finals, the Heat could have won had LeBron shown up. Going undefeated is hard and it adds to a discussion when talking about a player's "will to win" or their "killer instinct".
I understand it's better to get there than to not at all.
I understand it's better to get there than to not at all.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:42 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The Dallas series is easy for me to understand. It is simple. Lebron simply wasn't ready yet.
That doesn't explain why, and that's my point. It's the NBA finals, you're the best player in the world and you play hot potato every time you touch the ball? It's unexplainable and again the strangest thing I've seen from a superstar player. You don't just quit in the finals because you're not ready to win yet.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:44 pm to lsupride87
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Agreed. However, I think his defenders usually pojnt out that others have had bad series as well. Which resulted in them losing in the first and second rounds
Jordan shot 42% or something vs. the supersonic and jazz for his 4th and 6th rings. Kobe played like garbage and won his 5th.
The thing is, LeBron's Dallas and SA series were just baffling to me. I defended him back then, but the guy just wasn't in it and it shocks a lot of people still.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:45 pm to slackster
quote:
LeBron taking that 2007 squad to the Finals is more impressive than the 2011 flop is detrimental. I'd argue that it is more impressive than any team accomplishment Jordan ever had.
The East was hot garbage. Still though, it was super impressive and I was rooting hard for LBJ.
BUT, MJ led the Bulls to 72 wins in a season and the 'Ship. I think that's just a little bigger of an accomplishment
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:46 pm to Captain Want
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Captain Want
People like you give the MJ fans a bad rep
Seriously, it's one damn game. You're an idiot
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:50 pm to jg8623
Help settle an argument for me please:
When a shot is made, and a player grabs the ball from under the rim to take the ball out, is that counted as a rebound??
My buddy says it isn't and I think he's pretty stupid
When a shot is made, and a player grabs the ball from under the rim to take the ball out, is that counted as a rebound??
My buddy says it isn't and I think he's pretty stupid
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:51 pm to Sho Nuff
Well obviously that Bulls team was much better than the Cavs. I guess my point is that LeBron taking that terrible team to the finals was about as good of an example of a team being carried that far as you will find. Dirk and the 2011 Mavs as well as Iverson and 2001 76ers are in the same tier.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:53 pm to slackster
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Are you one of those that gets all excited that Jordan was 6-6 in the finals and argues that is a greater accomplishment than someone going 7-9? Serious question.
Stupid example. The 7 is still more than 6. You should have said something like 5 for 7
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:55 pm to Mr. Hangover
quote:
Help settle an argument for me please:
When a shot is made, and a player grabs the ball from under the rim to take the ball out, is that counted as a rebound??
My buddy says it isn't and I think he's pretty stupid
U serious bro???
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 11:57 pm
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