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re: And James is supposed to be the GOAT???
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:31 am to lsupride87
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:31 am to lsupride87
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The same age I believe Jordan figured it out after getting his shite kicked in by the Pistons two years in a row(before the finals too)
That Pistons team that is arguably one of the best defensive teams to ever play in the NBA IMO.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:32 am to stout
quote:Hahahahahahahahahahaha. They gave up around 100 pts a game average.
That Pistons team that is arguably one of the best defensive teams to ever play in the NBA IMO.
In fact, that pistons team gave up 100.8 points per game. Which would have them tied for 14th this year.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 7:36 am
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:37 am to stout
quote:They arguably weren't even the best defensive team in the NBA the 2 seasons they won it all, much less one of the best ever, fwiw.
That Pistons team that is arguably one of the best defensive teams to ever play in the NBA IMO.
They were good, obviously, but I think nostalgia is playing a part here.
The Rockets were basically as good, and the year before MJ won it all, Utah was definitely better defensively.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:39 am to lsupride87
quote:DRtg is a better indicator. They were 2nd and 4th in their 2 title runs. Good defenses, not all time good though.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. They gave up around 100 pts a game average.
In fact, that pistons team gave up 100.8 points per game. Which would have them tied for 14th this year
The 2nd title team gave up 104.7 points per 100 possessions, the 2011 Mavs gavae up 105.0. Guys can pick that apart and argue it however they see fit, that's just the facts.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:39 am to stout
quote:See this is also why it is impossible to compare different generation players. Nobody actually remembers the past. All we see is clips and nicknames like the bad boys and you get post like this. The fact is defense until the late 90's was putrid. And I'm not calling you out specifically my man
That Pistons team that is arguably one of the best defensive teams to ever play in the NBA IMO.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:40 am to shel311
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but I think nostalgia is playing a part here
Possibly
And perhaps what I should have said is that no other team was better suited to shut down Jordan than Detroit and they proved that. They had the correct personal for it. Mostly Dumars but Rodman and Laimbeer played a huge roll when MJ would drive to the basket as well.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:41 am to lsupride87
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defense until the late 90's was putrid
I would love to know what you think of defense today.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:41 am to stout
quote:Fair point.
And perhaps what I should have said is that no other team was better suited to shut down Jordan than Detroit and they proved that
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:44 am to stout
quote:you telling me the Goat was able to be stopped by a rich white boy down low? Jordan never would have allowed that to happen......Oh wait!
And perhaps what I should have said is that no other team was better suited to shut down Jordan than Detroit and they proved that. They had the correct personal for it. Mostly Dumars but Rodman and Laimbeer played a huge roll when MJ would drive to the basket as well.
Just kidding. Lebron is not the GOAt. Jordan is. But Lebron is awesome and let's enjoy watching him. Just like we should enjoy Durant. And when they retire then we can start his all over again
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:45 am to stout
quote:By far the best it has been. And it is obvious too
I would love to know what you think of defense today.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:48 am to shel311
So the GOAT is currently who??
James had a terrible game but he's not the only one making lazy passes. No snap on the passes and bad shot selection on top of the fact that the Heat wasn't playing like they were worried about closing the series. As TERRIBLE as James played...... they still could of won the damn game. Man didn't play the whole 3rd quarter. Pacers still need to win the next 2 games..... not gonna happen.
James had a terrible game but he's not the only one making lazy passes. No snap on the passes and bad shot selection on top of the fact that the Heat wasn't playing like they were worried about closing the series. As TERRIBLE as James played...... they still could of won the damn game. Man didn't play the whole 3rd quarter. Pacers still need to win the next 2 games..... not gonna happen.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:50 am to stout
quote:It's better, actually.
I would love to know what you think of defense today
The best possible way to rate a defense is points per possession.
From 1990-1995, the average defensive rating(points per 100 possessions) was 107.8. From 2009 to 2014 it's 106.7
1990 108.1
1991 107.9
1992 108.2
1993 108
1994 106.3
1995 108.3
2009 108.3
2010 107.6
2011 107.3
2012 104.6
2013 105.9
2014 106.7
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:50 am to lsupride87
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:00 am to goldenbadger08
I'm assuming your laughing because it should have been so obvious that defenses are better today?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:08 am to lsupride87
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All we see is clips and nicknames like the bad boys and you get post like this
The "Bad Boys" Pistons aren't exactly ancient...there are plenty of us who actually were alive to watch them play.
That said, the 03/04 Pistons were a much better defensive team and arguably the best since 2000.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:14 am to brgfather129
quote:They were the 2nd best defense in 2004.
That said, the 03/04 Pistons were a much better defensive team and arguably the best since 2000.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:19 am to shel311
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They were the 2nd best defense in 2004.
No, they weren't.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:22 am to brgfather129
quote:The Spurs were better, feel free to make your case for the Pistons
No, they weren't.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:23 am to shel311
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The Spurs were better
Because you said so?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:23 am to brgfather129
quote:Because the data says so, but feel free to make your case for the Pistons, they were better based on...
Because you said so?
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