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re: A textbook example of transition defense, the James Harden edition
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:52 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:52 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:So start a thread and talk about Harden's D compared to Lebron's D this year.
Hardens D > Lebrons D this year.
DRB % - advantage Harden
Steal % - advantage harden
Block % - advantage Harden
Defense win shares - advantage Harden
Defensive plus minus - advantage Harden
This thread about that gif. You not talking about and deflecting from kinda shows your thoughts on the effort displayed in the gif, FWIW.
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:52 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Nah, this isn't real life right now.
You don't know how to play basketball apparently. Somebody is supposed to pick up the ball on a fast break... which is what Harden did
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:53 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Except it was, he gave zero effort on the play.
Except this wasn't one of those plays
You don't have to blindly defend everything, you can admit a mistake, and there's zero way to defend this one.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:54 am to shel311
What do you mean nah? Which part of that do you disagree with?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:55 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:You said Harden picked up the ball on the fast break.
What do you mean nah? Which part of that do you disagree with?
That's probably the most ridiculous thing said on the MSB this week. He didn't come 1/100000th near "picking up the ball", and you know that.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:56 am to shel311
I don't blindly defend everything. You and some others here either don't understand the play he was trying to make, or are purposely ignoring that because it's more fun to believe he was just standing there out of laziness.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:58 am to shel311
quote:What are you talking about? He was obviously picking up the ball. Ariza had the basket.
You said Harden picked up the ball on the fast break. That's probably the most ridiculous thing said on the MSB this week. He didn't come 1/100000th near "picking up the ball", and you know that.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:58 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Then I don't know what to call this, but it's just silly to try and defend his "effort"
I don't blindly defend everything
quote:He didn't try to make a play, what are you watching? He flailed his arm a bit, you call that "trying to make a play"? Like I said, 0% chance you're even being serious right now, no way I believe someone would honestly defend that play.
You and some others here either don't understand the play he was trying to make
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:00 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Ashton Kutcher is about to bust into my work office right now, I just know it!!!
What are you talking about? He was obviously picking up the ball
Do guys normally "pick up the ball" by leaving 2 feet on the ground and not moving while everyone else runs down court? Yea, that's normal, flat footed, pick up the ball, good fundamentals!!!
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:00 am to PrimeTime Money
Hm..well, he was standing there out of laziness...
The ball was blocked and recovered by the Knicks in the paint.
Instead of getting back like a normal guard would do he stood his ground and nonchalantly put his arm out to guard the point when the ball was clearly not with that player anymore.
In doing this the play turned into a three on one fast break that resulted in an "And 1"
The ball was blocked and recovered by the Knicks in the paint.
Instead of getting back like a normal guard would do he stood his ground and nonchalantly put his arm out to guard the point when the ball was clearly not with that player anymore.
In doing this the play turned into a three on one fast break that resulted in an "And 1"
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:00 am to shel311
He was trying to take a foul.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:01 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:How hard was he "trying"?
He was trying to take a foul.
What kind of effort was he giving to try and take that foul?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:02 am to shel311
What did you want him to do? It was a standard reach-in take foul.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:04 am to PrimeTime Money
He tried so hard tho.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:04 am to Domingo Ayala
quote:
Hm..well, he was standing there out of laziness...
He finished the game with 36, 6 and 6 scoring the last 12 points and lead his team to a win despite missing 3 starters, all while playing elite defense. This thread is pretty dumb, really.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:06 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Playing defense flat footed is standard? In what world?
What did you want him to do? It was a standard reach-in take foul.
Here's a thought, turn around and follow the play, you don't think that would have been a good idea? There were 2 HOU guys behind him AFTER the "standard defensive play" that were running down court, but you, for some reason, excuse his lack of effort to run down court.
ANd I'll ask again:
How hard was he "trying"?
What kind of effort was he giving to try and take that foul?
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:07 am to shel311
You are pretty worked up about this.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:07 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:What does any of that have to do with the gif in question?
He finished the game with 36, 6 and 6 scoring the last 12 points and lead his team to a win despite missing 3 starters, all while playing elite defense. This thread is pretty dumb, really.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:08 am to PortCityTiger24
HE sees the torch being passed from Lebron to Harden and he's not happy about it one bit!
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:08 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:yea totally
You are pretty worked up about this
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