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re: A current all-NBA team would wreck the dream team
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:10 am to Tigerfan56
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:10 am to Tigerfan56
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He also averages 8 APG. KD has missed about half the year in case you were wondering. Should the Thunder have Dion Waiters as their primary scorer?
I mean the man just spent a month averaging a near triple double and I think now has the record for most playoff game 7 triple doubles, but let people keep up with their dumbass narratives.
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:12 am to RTR America
quote:They do it all the time.
Nobody does this. You would get absolutely torched doing this.
People collapse on the man in the post before the entry pass.In 92, that is an illegal D.
quote:Right. They changed the rules to prevent the league becoming a physical post driven league, and shifted it to a jump shooting league. So now centers have to be quicker and better shooters. But that came at the cost of strength and physicality.
The game has evovled. Bigs are more skilled now.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:12 am to slackster
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Nah. That is the point of the thread. Lester Earl and others have a problem with Spaniards on the team, but the OP specifically said a 2015 All-NBA team against the 1992 Dream Team. People have continued to move the goal post in this entire thread, but few have actually responded to the original hypothetical.
And I did that because 92 Dream Team was the best of the NBA at the time. Foreign players were shite, and sans Isaiah, it pretty much was an all NBA of 1992 team.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:14 am to Lester Earl
What Jordan and Pippen did to Kukoc they would do to either LBJ, KD, or Westbrook. It would get ugly as they would menace people all over the court.
I think people forget how long those guys arms were and how good they were with anticipation of passes.
The game I would have loved to seen was the 94 WC vs the Dream Team.
I think the 94 team would have won, as they were just freaks of nature and just made people quit. They also were surrounded by guys who had held MJ and Pippen in check at times.
I think people forget how long those guys arms were and how good they were with anticipation of passes.
The game I would have loved to seen was the 94 WC vs the Dream Team.
I think the 94 team would have won, as they were just freaks of nature and just made people quit. They also were surrounded by guys who had held MJ and Pippen in check at times.
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 11:16 am
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:15 am to Roaad
No, they changed the rules because the offensive players had too many advantages and the NBA wanted a more guard-oriented game.
The centers aren't weaker... the rule changes hampered their effectiveness.
So if Ewing and Robinson played in today's game with today's rules, they would have a much more difficult time.
The centers aren't weaker... the rule changes hampered their effectiveness.
So if Ewing and Robinson played in today's game with today's rules, they would have a much more difficult time.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:15 am to slackster
It is dumb theoretical, but even if they want Gasol, it's not going to help much. He's the most overrated player this board talks about when it comes to the NBA. They had 6-7 centers in the NBA that would be better than Gasol, and 2 of them were on the dream team.
And as i said in another post, and edit the dream team to be more in line with the current way the game is played, Id add 2 shooters like Reggie Miller or Mitch Richmond. Or add Dennis Rodman to guard LBJ or Durant.
And as i said in another post, and edit the dream team to be more in line with the current way the game is played, Id add 2 shooters like Reggie Miller or Mitch Richmond. Or add Dennis Rodman to guard LBJ or Durant.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:16 am to Roaad
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People collapse on the man in the post before the entry pass.
Players are in help side position, but no one double before the ball is actually passed in. Why the hell would you pass the ball to a guy being doubled.
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They changed the rules to prevent the league becoming a physical post driven league,
No the game has changed.
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and shifted it to a jump shooting league
It has shifted to a 3 point shooting league. Most teams have attempted the midrange jumper from their arsenal unless they have a player that is very very good at hitting it.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:17 am to sms151t
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What Jordan and Pippen did to Kukoc they would do to either LBJ, KD, or Westbrook. It would get ugly as they would menace people all over the court. I think people forget how long those guys arms were and how good they were with anticipation of passes.
Oh my god. This is too good. Did you just compare LBJ KD and Russ to Kukoc?
And you might wanna look at the 2015 teams wingspans before you spout off arm length as an advantage.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:17 am to Lester Earl
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And as i said in another post, and edit the dream team to be more in line with the current way the game is played, Id add 2 shooters like Reggie Miller or Mitch Richmond. Or add Dennis Rodman to guard LBJ or Durant.
Fair enough.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:18 am to RTR America
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I mean the man just spent a month averaging a near triple double and I think now has the record for most playoff game 7 triple doubles, but let people keep up with their dumbass narratives.
yea, while shooting 41% and 5 turnovers per game. He's a good player, but that doesn't win games. Ask James Harden and his early 1st Rd playoff exits when he cant make shots
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:18 am to sms151t
Did you seriously compare those guys to Kukoc...
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:19 am to Lester Earl
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It is dumb theoretical,
I've explained the hypothetical plenty of times in here. It's not my fault you are too dense to understand the concept of it and why it was fomulated that way.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:20 am to Tigerfan56
I compared the defense and what was considered the best international and possibly top 10 player at the time to top 10 guys of this era.
But I am sure you know what Toni Kukoc was capable of and why he was considered so good.
But I am sure you know what Toni Kukoc was capable of and why he was considered so good.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:20 am to Tigerfan56
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And I did that because 92 Dream Team was the best of the NBA at the time. Foreign players were shite, and sans Isaiah, it pretty much was an all NBA of 1992 team.
how does this change anything? because there are foreign players, the American players are shite now? Huh?
1992 was still all american players. and would have been even if there were a lot of foreign players in the NBA.
You can just admit that the talent isnt the same and be done with it. I mean this dude talked up Deandre Jordan for 4 pages because he is a good dunker.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:21 am to Lester Earl
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yea, while shooting 41% and 5 turnovers per game. He's a good player, but that doesn't win games.
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@BillSimmons: I'm officially amazed by Westbrook's season. Only 2 other guys ever averaged a 27-7-8 w/ 30+ PER: '89 MJ + '10 LBJ.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:23 am to sms151t
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I compared the defense and what was considered the best international and possibly top 10 player at the time to top 10 guys of this era.
You compared him to arguably a top 3 player of All time (LBJ), one of the best scorers of all time (KD), and the most athletically gifted PG ever (Russ).
It was a god awful analogy.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:23 am to Lester Earl
Now you are trying to have the dream team play a style of basketball that was not around in 1992.
You keep moving the goal posts.
You keep moving the goal posts.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:23 am to RTR America
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@BillSimmons: I'm officially amazed by Westbrook's season. Only 2 other guys ever averaged a 27-7-8 w/ 30+ PER: '89 MJ + '10 LBJ.
Given my quote that you used in this post, let me ask you then, do you know how PER is calculated? honestly
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:24 am to Lester Earl
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I mean this dude talked up Deandre Jordan for 4 pages because he is a good dunker.
To be fair, he was saying Deandre Jordan would be a suitable center to help counter the offensive games of the 1992 post players. I don't think the 2015 team wants any offense run through DJ, and they wouldn't really need it.
It is the same concept as you adding lesser wing players to the 1992 team to help with spacing. You start adding those players to fit today's game and all of a sudden the 1992 squad doesn't seem so formidable.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 11:25 am to Lester Earl
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how does this change anything? because there are foreign players, the American players are shite now? Huh?
1992 was still all american players. and would have been even if there were a lot of foreign players in the NBA.
Believe it or not- basketball has evolved since 1992. Foreign basketball wasn't popular in 1992 (and incidentally became popular because of the dream team)
I took the 1992 Dream Team because it was the best of the NBA/World at the time. Feel free to add any foreign players to the team. Like Kukoc, who was basically Lebron or KD or Westbrook.
The 2015 team is the best of the NBA/World.
It's a comparison between the talent of what many consider the golden era to what I think is definitely another golden era of talent.
Do you get that now?
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