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Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:40 am to barry
I'm still butthurt that Biggio didn't get in last year. If he gets snubbed again this year then the little respect I had for baseball HOF voters will officially go to none.
Class should be:
Biggio
Piazza
Johnson
Martinez
Smoltz
Although I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Martinez and Smoltz left off because MLB HOF voters are the most smug and ridiculous group to walk the earth and think that the number of years left on the ballot matters.
ETA: my pipe dream pick would be Bagwell because I think it would be cool to see him and Biggio go in the hall together. I know Bagwell won't go in for a long time though, if he does at all because of juice.
Class should be:
Biggio
Piazza
Johnson
Martinez
Smoltz
Although I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Martinez and Smoltz left off because MLB HOF voters are the most smug and ridiculous group to walk the earth and think that the number of years left on the ballot matters.
ETA: my pipe dream pick would be Bagwell because I think it would be cool to see him and Biggio go in the hall together. I know Bagwell won't go in for a long time though, if he does at all because of juice.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 10:43 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:40 am to barry
Randy Johnson Former Astro
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz
Carlos Delgado
Gary Sheffield
Nomar Garciaparra
Troy Percival
Rich Aurilia
Aaron Boone Former Astro
Tony Clark
Jermaine Dye
Darin Erstad Former Astro
Cliff Floyd
Brian Giles
Tom Gordon Former Astro
Eddie Guardado
Jason Schmidt
Returning to the Ballot
# years on ballot and Last years results
Craig Biggio Former Astro
Mike Piazza
Jeff Bagwell Former Astro
Tim Raines
Roger Clemens Former Astro
Barry Bonds
Lee Smith
Curt Schilling Former Astro
Edgar Martinez
Alan Trammell
Mike Mussina
Jeff Kent Former Astro
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Larry Walker
Don Mattingly
Sammy Sosa
We STAAACKED.
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz
Carlos Delgado
Gary Sheffield
Nomar Garciaparra
Troy Percival
Rich Aurilia
Aaron Boone Former Astro
Tony Clark
Jermaine Dye
Darin Erstad Former Astro
Cliff Floyd
Brian Giles
Tom Gordon Former Astro
Eddie Guardado
Jason Schmidt
Returning to the Ballot
# years on ballot and Last years results
Craig Biggio Former Astro
Mike Piazza
Jeff Bagwell Former Astro
Tim Raines
Roger Clemens Former Astro
Barry Bonds
Lee Smith
Curt Schilling Former Astro
Edgar Martinez
Alan Trammell
Mike Mussina
Jeff Kent Former Astro
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Larry Walker
Don Mattingly
Sammy Sosa
We STAAACKED.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:40 am to goldennugget
God you suck at this
The first 3 pitchers are all first ballot
The first 3 pitchers are all first ballot
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:42 am to barry
Pedro
Big Unit
Smoltz
That should be the order for most votes received, IMO. All three should make it first ballot, as well. Unfortunately, baseball writers try hard to be idiots.
Big Unit
Smoltz
That should be the order for most votes received, IMO. All three should make it first ballot, as well. Unfortunately, baseball writers try hard to be idiots.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:49 am to cjk5h
Everyone is just throwing Smoltz in. He's a lot more of a borderline HOF than most would think.
He robbed Kevin Brown on his only cy young because the writers just gave it to the guy with the most wins.
He robbed Kevin Brown on his only cy young because the writers just gave it to the guy with the most wins.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:50 am to goldennugget
quote:
Randy Johnson reached his peak with Seattle/Arizona two small market teams not relevant nationally and that is going to hurt him.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:51 am to barry
Biggio
Piazza
Bagwell
Raines
Bonds
Clemens
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
Smoltz
Sheffield
Piazza
Bagwell
Raines
Bonds
Clemens
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
Smoltz
Sheffield
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:51 am to barry
when will Griffey Jr be eligible?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:52 am to barry
quote:
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz
Locks to get in.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:53 am to goldennugget
quote:
Randy Johnson reached his peak with Seattle/Arizona two small market teams not relevant nationally and that is going to hurt him
I tried to down vote twice, but it only allows one.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:54 am to Walt OReilly
quote:
when will Griffey Jr be eligible?
Next year, he's the only lock from his class.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:00 am to barry
Smoltz:
213-155 3.33 ERA 53 complete games 3084 strikeouts 125 ERA+
Brown:
211-144 3.28 ERA 72 complete games 2397 strikeouts 127 ERA+
213-155 3.33 ERA 53 complete games 3084 strikeouts 125 ERA+
Brown:
211-144 3.28 ERA 72 complete games 2397 strikeouts 127 ERA+
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:00 am to barry
Biggio should have been a first ballot hall of famer.
Baseball writers can all suck a dick.
Baseball writers can all suck a dick.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:00 am to barry
quote:
Everyone is just throwing Smoltz in. He's a lot more of a borderline HOF than most would think.
Maybe, but I think 200+ Wins, 150+ Saves, and 3000+ Ks, 8-time All-Star gets him in easily.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:01 am to barry
Here are Smoltz 7 best seasons as a starter for ERA+
149
144
141
140
139
138
133
Compared to Randy
197
195
193
188
184
181
176
and Pedro
291
243
219
211
202
188(only 116 IP)
163
149
144
141
140
139
138
133
Compared to Randy
197
195
193
188
184
181
176
and Pedro
291
243
219
211
202
188(only 116 IP)
163
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:02 am to barry
Smoltz pitching in the bullpen hurt his win totals but helped his ERA in the long run.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:03 am to LSUBoo
quote:
Maybe, but I think 200+ Wins,
He pitched the majority of his career on one of the most consistent winning franchises in ML history. His Win totals are Petites level inflated IMO
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:05 am to goldennugget
quote:
I am not sure if any of them are locks
wut????
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:05 am to barry
He would have 250 wins easily if not for the move to the bullpen but his ERA would be closer to the 3.45-3.50 mark IMO
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