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re: 16 team playoff?

Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by tweaver18
Monroe/Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
187 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

you could always run the first two rounds in the weeks following the conference championship games, freeing up 12 of the 16 to play in bowls
yeah I'm not saying this happens in January. If it were to take effect, round 1 should be 1 or 2 weeks after conference championship week.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:16 pm to
I like this method the best:


1 Oregon vs.
8 Ohio State (@ Rose Bowl)

4 TCU vs.
5 LSU (@ Cotton Bowl)

3 Boise State vs.
6 Wisconsin (@ Fiesta Bowl)

2 Auburn vs.
7 Nebraska (@ Chic Fil A Bowl)


2nd round


1 Oregon vs.
5 LSU (@ Orange Bowl)

6 Wisconsin vs.
2 Auburn (@ Sugar Bowl)

Finals

5 LSU vs.
2 AUburn (@ Glendale, AZ)
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 11:18 pm
Posted by jacquespene8
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
4142 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:18 pm to
Would probably be LSU Aub in second round
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:18 pm to
quote:


1 Oregon vs.
8 Ohio State (@ Rose Bowl)

4 TCU vs.
5 LSU (@ Cotton Bowl)

3 Boise State vs.
6 Wisconsin (@ Fiesta Bowl)

2 Auburn vs.
7 Nebraska (@ Chic Fil A Bowl)


2nd round


1 Oregon vs.
5 LSU (@ Orange Bowl)

6 Wisconsin vs.
2 Auburn (@ Sugar Bowl)

Finals

5 LSU vs.
2 AUburn (@ Glendale, AZ)

Posted by tweaver18
Monroe/Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
187 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:20 pm to
quote:


Finals

5 LSU vs.
2 AUburn (@ Glendale, AZ)

+1000
Posted by fish farmer
Monkey Island
Member since Jul 2009
157 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 2:12 am to
24 team bracket just like the lower division. All conference champions receive automatic playoff bids. I believe this comes out to 11. Pick 13 at - large teams. Top 8 seeds draw a bye in the 1st rd. Use the BCS format for seeding purposes. Schools like Boise St and TCU would have no complaints. We would then see how good they really are. Cinderella could also wear the slipper. If we think March Madness is big, how big would this be????? Still keep your bowl games. Use the BCS Bowls as the QF, SF, and Finals sites and rotate. Would need to add perhaps the Cotton Bowl, Georgia Dome, and one of the Florida Bowl sites. If the FCS can do it, we sure as heck can. I honestly don't think the President's of the universities are smart enough and fail to realize the revenue generated from a playoff system. It's all about money for them!!!
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Isn't this a much better system,


yes. it has to be a 16 team playoff to allow all the conferences to have an aq by winning their respective conference. you would then have five at large bids. that would mean that every game in the regular season counts because, in order to get one of those five spots, you would need to finish the fifth highest in the bcs. so, if you loose a game to let's say mcneese, then you're fricked unless you win your conference.

also, if you don't give the sunbelt, mac, wac, etc.... an aq, then how in the hell will they be able to recruit? the answer is "they won't".


This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 6:48 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 7:29 am to
quote:

24 team bracket just like the lower division.

:omg:

24 teams is abso-fricking-lutely retarded

you're telling me TWENTY FOUR teams have established a claim for being the best team in the country? really?

quote:

Cinderella could also wear the slipper.

frick Cinderellas

they're exactly what you don't want

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 7:29 am to
quote:

also, if you don't give the sunbelt, mac, wac, etc.... an aq, then how in the hell will they be able to recruit?

the same way they recruit now

why would you want to lower the standards of the system to include the lowest common denominator?

that is the opposite of what you want to do
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 7:31 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47564 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 7:57 am to
quote:

also, if you don't give the sunbelt, mac, wac, etc.... an aq, then how in the hell will they be able to recruit? the answer is "they won't".


who cares?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47564 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:00 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:19 am to
quote:

who cares?

i almost went this far, but i'm resisting

i will say this

how many times do you think the sunbelt, mac, and CUSA truly complain about not getting a title shot?

i can think of 2 possible examples in the BCS era. 1998 tulane (undefeated) and 2004 louisville (only lost once, at miami when that meant something, and their starting QB got hurt in the 2nd half)

even hawaii wasn't bitching in 2007 pre-bowls

it's essentially TCU and Boise, and TCU has never finished the entire season with an argument...so it's just Boise, and it's only 2 years (2006, 2009). nobody will argue Utah in 2004 or 2008 really

do people really want to completely frick up the system and lower everything to take that into account?

and i'm only talking about conference AQ for playoffs. not the concept of playoffs in general

we're talking 4ish teams out of 80+ participants (assuming 8-team playoff. it gets worse if we use 16 teams per year) in the BCS era. that's less than 5%
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 8:22 am
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:27 am to
quote:

8 teams. No conference locks bullcrap.

No more than 8 teams.

Outside of the fan base, the postseason debate is about who has the money in the bowl system and who's going to be getting the money in a playoff system.

The ACC & Big East would never agree to potentially forfeiting BCS slots, which would lose each conference about $17 million.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:34 am to
quote:

24 team bracket just like the lower division.
Still keep your bowl games.

Do you realise how much the travel costs would be for teams to travel to multiple bowl games? You're talking about 5 rounds of games. Fans are not going to buy tickets, take off work, and travel to more than 1 bowl game.

The only way a playoff works with more than 4 teams is if some of the games are played at a home field.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:40 am to
quote:

You have to have 16 teams to have it recognized by the NCAA.


Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:43 am to
quote:

how many times do you think the sunbelt, mac, and CUSA truly complain about not getting a title shot?


you're thinking about the present. sixty years ago army was the king of the field. sixty years from now, who knows, it might be Temple. you have to give every conference an equal opportunity.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 8:48 am to
quote:

8 teams. No conference locks bullcrap. Current BCS rankings, top 8 period. 1 v 8, 2v7, etc.



Agreed.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47564 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:35 am to
i don't have any real reason for my sentiments... i just want to see the small schools suffer. i might be the more sinister side of SFP.

some of the non-BCS schools that can't draw are already far into my plan... i want to see them all die off lol
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 11:48 am to
That's too many undeserving teams with a chance to win at all. There should be an eight or at the very most, 12 team playoff with NO automatic bids.
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 11:49 am
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 11:54 am to
Death to the BCS

You guys should read it. They go very in depth about why a 16 team playoff is best, and how corrupt the BCS system is.
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