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Would you invest in a s&p 500 index short term if you watched it closely?

Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:54 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:54 am
I have about 20k I plan to give my daughter(no pics) in about 2-3 years to help with a down payment on a house. I have been investing it in ibonds and now t-bills. Would you just stick with that?

Or should I put it in a S&P index and be ready to sell quick if things turn south.

Thanks
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 12:55 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35977 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:55 am to
Oops, moving to money board
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:13 am to
Buy TrumpCoin with it

Gonna go the moon in November
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:21 am to
Invest it in a family dog instead
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:22 am to
buy a cellphone for your daughter so shes not asking random people to borrow theirs.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35977 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:26 am to
quote:

buy a cellphone for your daughter so shes not asking random people to borrow theirs.


I did, she gave it to some guy she calls papi for drugs.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:24 am to
Be mindful of the “gift tax.”
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1298 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:01 am to
No. I wouldn’t. Might be up in 2 years or might drop 25%.

You can get 5% CDs right now.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:10 am to
quote:

Be mindful of the “gift tax.”


If he’s married he won’t have any problem using annual gifting. If he’s not, he can gift over two years or use his lifetime exemption of nearly $13 million by filing form 709 (I think that’s the form).
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84752 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:10 am to
quote:

No. I wouldn’t. Might be up in 2 years or might drop 25%. You can get 5% CDs right now.
this.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2115 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:19 am to
I might look at this a bit differently than the typical advice "if you need the $ in 5yrs or less dont put it in the market." You may not need these specific funds if you have an ample well diversified portfolio. Your ability to sustain market risk isnt equivalent to a first time homebuyer with no other means to fund the down payment.

If you buy an ETF not mutual fund you could put on a stop loss order so you wont have to watch it yourself.

Also consider tax optimization by gifting appreciated shares instead of cash. If your daughter is in a low enough tax bracket she might be subject to zero long term capital gains rate. If she has low income now (recent college grad etc.) but will be above the threshold at time of purchase you might make the gift early. That could essentially provide a 15% boost to your gift or more if you are in 20% LTCG and/or subject to 3.8% NIIT.
(Someone please correct me if wrong. I have no tax expertise.)
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 8:39 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35977 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:29 am to
Ok thanks for the advice everyone.

Ill wait and see if a few more chime in.

I've looked at cds, but have been doing better with short term t-bills up til now anyway.

I'll look into making the gift early option. I'm not a tax expert either, lol
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 8:42 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40834 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:03 am to
2 years is such a short term window I wouldn't risk money that you need. CDs etc seen like a much more attractive option
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:41 pm to
The absolute worst thing you can do is panic sell so if this is your approach, stay away
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

sell quick if things turn south.
By that time it might be too late. Market timing rarely goes well.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:52 pm to
If you did this, would a loss like today trigger a sell or not?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:36 pm to
What about a buffered S&P 500 etf?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:21 pm to


Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:21 pm to
Piggybacking off of this (but think it’s a relevant, albeit dumb, question) but are stop losses indefinite and something you can setup and forget? Or do you have to renew it every so often?
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