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What % of your gross income do you save and/or invest?
Posted on 4/18/11 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 4/18/11 at 6:44 pm
I'm curious and wanted to benchmark how much fellow MB readers save in cash, retirement or other investments as a % of annual income.
My wife and I are at 19% which excludes extra principal payments on the mortgage. (I know some on this board think paying extra on your mortage isn't financially savy but 1)It'll bring me peace of mind having no debt which is worth something to me 2) Not sure these days where to get a guaranteed return in excess of 5% these days.)
My wife and I are at 19% which excludes extra principal payments on the mortgage. (I know some on this board think paying extra on your mortage isn't financially savy but 1)It'll bring me peace of mind having no debt which is worth something to me 2) Not sure these days where to get a guaranteed return in excess of 5% these days.)
Posted on 4/18/11 at 6:53 pm to kaaj24
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Not sure these days where to get a guaranteed return in excess of 5% these days.
you are forgetting tax incentives, but whatever.
Obviously your19% is woefully insufficient. You should be looking for around 112%
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:02 pm to kaaj24
Party like there is no tomorrow. In the end all you have are memories and you certainly won't be sorry for the trips you took, but you will regret skipping some trips that you could have taken. Ask yourself this; did I come here for a long time or a good time? Even if you do decide to try to become filthy rich what are the chances of that happening in the US today? Of course, there is the lotto if you feel lucky and there is that outside chance that you will buy the one asset class that absolutely NO ONE wants and you can hold it for twenty or thirty years and make a bundle. Most don't have the patience for that one.
This is not a recipe for getting rich or investment advice. Good Luck!
This is not a recipe for getting rich or investment advice. Good Luck!
Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:04 pm to kaaj24
For some more serious answers, I max out my 401k pre-tax allowable (too lazy to calculate the gross income % vs tax bracket changes), and I'm building up my emergency fund at about 10% of gross.
After I solidify my emergency fund of 3 months salary, I plan on maxing out my Roth IRA.
Mind you, I'm still very young and early in my career, so I still spend way too much money on useless shite.
After I solidify my emergency fund of 3 months salary, I plan on maxing out my Roth IRA.
Mind you, I'm still very young and early in my career, so I still spend way too much money on useless shite.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:15 pm to TulaneUVA
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After I solidify my emergency fund of 3 months salary, I plan on maxing out my Roth IRA.
Go ahead and max it now. You can withdraw contributions later if an emergency crops up.
I max my 401(k), my Roth and my HSA (which is essentially like an extra IRA). Anything beyond that I spend on hookers and blow.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:15 pm to TulaneUVA
my 401k at work is $15,500 which is max - i think, same for my wife. i do another $3500 in a roth ira.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 7:54 pm to RasinCane
quote:NSS.
Party like there is no tomorrow. . . . .
This is not a recipe for getting rich or investment advice.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 8:20 pm to TulaneUVA
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RasinCane
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Da frick?
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:09 pm to kaaj24
I'm 29 years old and currently save approx. 13% of my income. Plan on bumping that to 20% within the next 1-2 years after I turn 30.
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:17 pm to kaaj24
quote:About 30% of gross. I'm hoping it will pay off eventually with an early retirement. Current plan is to retire at 55 and teach for another 10 or so years or until I get bored with it. :fingerscrossed:
I'm curious and wanted to benchmark how much fellow MB readers save in cash, retirement or other investments as a % of annual income.
The first question is not what % you save now, but how old you are. For the <30 set, it is not unusual to save 10% or even less. In your 30s, you should be moving that number up. Financial planners will tell you that your 40s and 50s are the big years for savings because the kids eventually leave and you have more disposable income. There is no one set % for all stages of life.
The second question is, of course, how much you're making. When you have that figure and how many more years you have to earn, then you just decide what you need to retire, and that's how you figure out whether you're on the right track for you.
For me, I started with 6% into the 401k, then moved to maxing out by 30 and have ever since. Saved 3 months of take home pay before 30, then increased the emergency account to more later. Started investing before 30, then increased investments as income increased.
It's different for everyone, but a good financial planner should be able to tell you how much you need to put back to be where you want to be by the time you want to get there. Good luck.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:44 pm to wrlakers
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For the <30 set, it is not unusual to save 10% or even less.
It may not be unusual, but it's a matter of fact that setting aside more when you're younger maximizes your return when you retire. Not that I should have to explain compounding interest to any one on this board...
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:49 pm to TulaneUVA
I'll just say that I'm 25 and see TheHiddenFlask's sig quote.
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:50 pm to TulaneUVA
quote:I agree, but my point is that sometimes it's not practical. Saving anything at <30 is a goog thing. Think about it, if you had put back 10% of what you made at <20, what would that amount look like now? When I graduated, I was so in debt, I thought I'd never get out. I did 6% in the 401k until I could get on my feet, then started the serious saving. Do I wish now that I had done more then, yes. Do I regret the awesome stuff I did when I started earning a paycheck, not one cent.
It may not be unusual, but it's a matter of fact that setting aside more when you're younger maximizes your return when you retire. Not that I should have to explain compounding interest to any one on this board...
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:05 am to wrlakers
What is 0 divided by 0?
That's my answer.
I'm pretty sure it's an indeterminate form.
That's my answer.
I'm pretty sure it's an indeterminate form.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 12:07 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:14 am to wrlakers
I am expecting to save about 25% of my gross next year. I still don't know what my expenses are going to look like, so this is all just an estimate.
I am maxing out my employers 401(k) matching plan. $0.25 on the dollar for the first 5% of gross I think (need to double check). I should have anywhere from $500-1000 left in cash at the end of each month in addition to the 401(k) savings,.
The plan is to max matching 401(k), make an emergency fund in a savings account/checkings, and then put the remainder in a Roth IRA.
I should have $6,000+ in credit available to me next year, so I could technically use that as my emergency fund and ignore a savings account. Instead, just put all of those funds in a Roth. If I have emergency expenses, then I could charge on credit, withdraw from Roth to pay off cards at end of month.
I am maxing out my employers 401(k) matching plan. $0.25 on the dollar for the first 5% of gross I think (need to double check). I should have anywhere from $500-1000 left in cash at the end of each month in addition to the 401(k) savings,.
The plan is to max matching 401(k), make an emergency fund in a savings account/checkings, and then put the remainder in a Roth IRA.
I should have $6,000+ in credit available to me next year, so I could technically use that as my emergency fund and ignore a savings account. Instead, just put all of those funds in a Roth. If I have emergency expenses, then I could charge on credit, withdraw from Roth to pay off cards at end of month.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 12:15 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:31 am to lynxcat
quote:I have no comment on your plan, except to say that any savings is a good thing. I have never been eligible for any ROTH anything since it became an option, so I have no idea what it's about.
The plan is to max matching 401(k), make an emergency fund in a savings account/checkings, and then put the remainder in a Roth IRA.
Matching in the 401k is a good thing, but you shouldn't limit you contribution to the match amount. The thing about the 401k is that you can't touch it. Even when it was tough, I was maxing out on the 401k contribution. Not a year after I graduated, but within 6 years. The whole point of what I was trying to say above is that saving as much as you can early will pay off later. It's sometimes hard to swallow, but when you feel real financial independence, it is a really great feeling.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:48 am to lynxcat
I remember when they hired me full-time. I made this wonky spreadsheet, built in seasonality factors to my expenses, estimated extremely conservatively, added sensitivity analysis, came out saving roughly the same number you did under normal conditions. I was right on most of the numbers...
Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:48 am to wrlakers
I feel like the budget I have made for myself still allows me to live a great lifestyle, so I am really happy about being able to save.
What is the limit contributions you can make to a 401(k) each year?
I plan on putting in the maximum ($5000) into a Roth IRA.
What is the limit contributions you can make to a 401(k) each year?
I plan on putting in the maximum ($5000) into a Roth IRA.
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