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Team National
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:17 pm
Has anybody heard of them – have you ever joined the company and saved money, etc...? What are your thoughts on the company?
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:58 pm to player711
Yes.
Yes
Need to see more savings on things i need before i can go all in. homeowners and car insurance coming up next.
Yes
Need to see more savings on things i need before i can go all in. homeowners and car insurance coming up next.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 9:05 am
Posted on 5/20/17 at 9:57 pm to player711
Got asked to a very important business meeting. Then thisfricker tries to spin Team National on me, like I got the time for that shite.
Enjoy your cheap cruises, not my thing though.
Enjoy your cheap cruises, not my thing though.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:18 pm to player711
it works for some people.....
....not me
....not me
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:03 am to KillTheGophers
Thanks...just wanting to get your thoughts.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 11:50 am to player711
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player711
i will delve into a little more detail for you
TN is legit and have been around for over 20 plus years.
it is basically a form of MLM. Now i have tried that before and am not real keen on it, however
this does not require selling any products like other MLM businesses. It basically sells itself, but
in order for me to be able to endorse something I first have to believe in it and see huge savings. The consumer goods u can order with free shipping is great. I am getting a discount on directTV/ATT service. I only bought the two year membership basically as a trial basis and if i do not see at least the same amount of savings as what i paid then i will be done with it. I am about to use it on car and homeowners insurance. Sure you may easily be better off with the lifetime membership as far as savings goes but I went with two year because i need to see proof before going any further.
honestly i still have to go through the savings plan book and see what other stuff applies to me that i can really use it on.
I do not like the "warm blanket" sales strategy they use and told this to my upline sponsor. As far as making money getting others signed up it is a little tricky. They do seem to have lots of materials that can help you in the form of videos you can text or email among other things if you are not good at presentations or sales.
team national review
another team national review
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:05 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
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Then thisfricker tries to spin Team National on me, like I got the time for that shite.
i bitched about that also. 2 hours to make a presentation. I basically had to tell him let's get to the nuts and bolts. should not take over 30 minutes to show savings plans and see if people are interested and if they want to make some money on the side. lots of rah rah emotional filler at the beginning.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:32 pm to player711
bullshite pyramid scheme
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:45 pm to tigersmanager
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bullshite pyramid scheme
Team National is not a pyramid scheme. The compensation plan is a hybrid binary plan, which is very different from a pyramid. Look, you do not have to like it but let's be accurate about what we call it.
a pyramid scheme is where (via the premise of a potentially bogus product) someone above gets a cut out of everyone belows personal activity. those are illegal and fold when it has built to such depth that once everyone upline is paid, there is nothing left to pay those further down the line. Team National would have folded years ago if it were what you claim.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:50 pm to player711
As a business owner it's a great deal--
I joined lifetime member. I've never sold it to another person and I have an awesome upline who puts people under me and I get checks regularly.
Lifetime membership covers--my parents and grandparents, wife's parents and grandparents, our kids, grand kids if we have them, and five of my employees.
For the price of the lifetime membership, I can cover all of those people.
Thus far--
We have purchased quality furniture, a Tahoe ($5,500 savings), tons of rebates, and have eight phones saving 18% at ATT&T. Our membership has paid for itself eight times.
Look at this way--Team National is an investment. You are investing $2,195 one time to see how much money you can save on your $2,195.00
In three years, I have an 800% return. How can I invest $2,195,000 and get the same return?
It works for some, it does not work for others.
I joined lifetime member. I've never sold it to another person and I have an awesome upline who puts people under me and I get checks regularly.
Lifetime membership covers--my parents and grandparents, wife's parents and grandparents, our kids, grand kids if we have them, and five of my employees.
For the price of the lifetime membership, I can cover all of those people.
Thus far--
We have purchased quality furniture, a Tahoe ($5,500 savings), tons of rebates, and have eight phones saving 18% at ATT&T. Our membership has paid for itself eight times.
Look at this way--Team National is an investment. You are investing $2,195 one time to see how much money you can save on your $2,195.00
In three years, I have an 800% return. How can I invest $2,195,000 and get the same return?
It works for some, it does not work for others.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:34 am to JoseVargasTX
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Has anybody heard of them – have you ever joined the company and saved money, etc...? What are your thoughts on the company?
Heard of them, yes.
Joined, no.
My thoughts:
People in general need to redefine the word "savings" in their brains. Being bombarded with advertisements over their lives has everybody confused.
You don't save money by spending money. You aren't saving money when you buy things. Spending less isn't saving. It's spending. Saving is saving.
So you aren't saving money by buying a group-discount membership. You are spending money. You are spending money so that you can get a discount when you spend more money in the future. So all you ever do is spend. You never save with Team National. You buy shite and that's it.
On top of that, the discounts are dubious. You can get a good price on furniture by haggling and paying with cash. You can buy furniture from liquidation sales or big sales events or whatever the hell you want. Team National doesn't have the market cornered on discount furniture. You can get discounts for free from Groupon and Ebates or wherever the hell. You can get a low price on a car using the Will Cover method. The whole thing is a scam designed to make you think you're part of a secret club of smart people who are getting special discounts when in reality you're just getting fricked out of the buy-in fee to be a member.
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Look at this way--Team National is an investment. You are investing $2,195 one time to see how much money you can save on your $2,195.00
Holy shite, no. It isn't an investment. Investments go up in value, produce income, and can be sold or liquidated for cash. Purchase discounts on furniture and cars and phone plans don't go up in value, don't produce income and will never be sold for more than the purchase price. You didn't see a return on investment from getting discounts. Even assuming you got discounts through Team National that wouldn't be available through some other means, you didn't get 800% returns in 3 years. You SPENT money on depreciating consumer goods in 3 years, after already spending money on the membership.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 7:20 am to JoseVargasTX
After reading the examples in this post, a lot of big companies offer these benefits to their employees, for free.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:43 am to Huey Lewis
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So you aren't saving money by buying a group-discount membership. You are spending money. You are spending money so that you can get a discount when you spend more money in the future. So all you ever do is spend. You never save with Team National. You buy shite and that's it.
so you do not like saving on things you have to buy anyway?
wow. you act like they are forcing you to spend on things you do not want. You seem to not be able to comprehend this concept obviously. Nobody said to buy things you do not need. This is why it is not for everyone. Depends what you need. Please continue with your narrative though. Show me everything you can save on in the book and then show me where you can save on all those things better on your own. You provided zero specific pricing examples proving you can get better and more discounts using other methods on all the same goods. Look if you are going to disagree you have the burden of proof. So far you have used nothing but vague generalizations. Yeah i have used true car before also to buy a car? so what?
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The whole thing is a scam
already disproved with 3rd party reviews i posted above and I am still on the fence as to whether it is best for me long term. Your subjective hate is making you look silly. You obviously did not read the links of the 3rd party reviews of team national so here is a snippet since you are too lazy and it does not fit your narrative.
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Team National Review – The Verdict So you probably heard from a few sites that Team National is a scam… The TRUTH is it’s FAR from a scam. The company has been in business since 1997 and if it really was a scam, why would it be in business for this long? Always ask yourself that with any company… The company is great, the products are great and the compensation plan is fair. That’s what I got when I researched the company.
Now the objective reviewer in the second link is on the fence also. Why don't you contact him and convince him. he is looking for exact specific pricing models also (just like i asked you for) to see if he can do better on his own on all the same needs and goods. help him out.
in all actuality I should have stopped reading once you posted this:
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My thoughts:
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 9:00 am
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:16 am to Fat Bastard
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bullshite pyramid scheme
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Team National is not a pyramid scheme.
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basically a form of MLM
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:23 am to Fat Bastard
I get it. Buyer's remorse is a son of a bitch and nobody who buys into a MLM's bullshite wants to admit they were duped. It's a hard pill to swallow.
Again, this is a lack of understanding of basic financial principles.
I like paying a lower price for things I buy. But furniture and cars and cruises aren't things I have to buy and I'm not saving money by spending money on depreciating items or things with little to no resale value. Right off the bat, buying into Team National is a several thousand dollar expenditure on something that isn't resalable. You've simply prepaid a portion of a possible future purchase.
That's not how burden of proof works.
I'm sorry but if you're so financially ignorant that you don't understand how prepaying for consumer goods isn't an investment or a savings vehicle then I really don't know what else to tell you.
Imagine if Team National's numbers were hyper inflated. Imagine if a lifetime membership cost $200,000 but you were told by the pushers that you would receive discounts on so much stuff over the course of your life that you would end up ahead after several decades of purchases. Any reasonable person would turn that down because of the opportunity cost involved and the uncertainty of the value of the supposed discounts on future purchases.
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so you do not like saving on things you have to buy anyway?
Again, this is a lack of understanding of basic financial principles.
I like paying a lower price for things I buy. But furniture and cars and cruises aren't things I have to buy and I'm not saving money by spending money on depreciating items or things with little to no resale value. Right off the bat, buying into Team National is a several thousand dollar expenditure on something that isn't resalable. You've simply prepaid a portion of a possible future purchase.
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Look if you are going to disagree you have the burden of proof.
That's not how burden of proof works.
I'm sorry but if you're so financially ignorant that you don't understand how prepaying for consumer goods isn't an investment or a savings vehicle then I really don't know what else to tell you.
Imagine if Team National's numbers were hyper inflated. Imagine if a lifetime membership cost $200,000 but you were told by the pushers that you would receive discounts on so much stuff over the course of your life that you would end up ahead after several decades of purchases. Any reasonable person would turn that down because of the opportunity cost involved and the uncertainty of the value of the supposed discounts on future purchases.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:47 am to Clyde Tipton
you conveniently left this out
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those are illegal and fold when it has built to such depth that once everyone upline is paid, there is nothing left to pay those further down the line. Team National would have folded years ago if it were what you claim.
sorry you cannot comprehend that. but carry on!
:rotflmao:
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:56 am to Fat Bastard
Your argument is equivalent to saying that since Scientology has existed since 1955 and takes in billions of dollars from millions of followers it must be true that Xenu blew up all the thetans with hydrogen bombs inside Earth's volcanoes.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 11:06 am to Huey Lewis
We signed up for Team National after the flood in August and used it to buy a lot of furniture. We came out ahead by saving on what we were going to buy anyway for us and family. However, I don't anticipate using it much going forward.(We did the two year $795)
Posted on 5/22/17 at 11:32 am to player711
We are in it (grandfathered in, didn't pay) and have saved a good bit on furniture and the savings were more than a lifetime package. Hardly use the rebate stuff except on big purchases like when we purchased supplies for a wood privacy fence from Home Depot.
It's not a pyramid scheme. Sure the model looks like a pyramid but so can any company. Someone has to be at the top . A regular company would be the owner/CEO, managers, employees. That's a pyramid looking structure.
It's not a pyramid scheme. Sure the model looks like a pyramid but so can any company. Someone has to be at the top . A regular company would be the owner/CEO, managers, employees. That's a pyramid looking structure.
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