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Savings versus student loan debt for young professional
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:39 am
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This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:42 am to MoonrakerElite
First, contribute up to your employer match for your 401k, second, get to 4-6 month emergency fund in savings, then throw everything you can at your loans.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:43 am to MoonrakerElite
That's a lot of student loans. I feel for you.
I'd personally probably put the extra 500 toward the student loans, but that's just me. While 4.9% isn't awful, rates could easily increase. If you aren't saving for anything in particular, I'd try and pay down that debt pretty aggressively.
I'd personally probably put the extra 500 toward the student loans, but that's just me. While 4.9% isn't awful, rates could easily increase. If you aren't saving for anything in particular, I'd try and pay down that debt pretty aggressively.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:49 am to SouthOfSouth
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That's a lot of student loans. I feel for you.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:52 am to MoonrakerElite
Loan forgiveness man! Don't waste your time. Bernie and Hillary are about to take care of you!
Really though, I would get the minimum match in company 401k, have around 4 months salary saved, (or more if you are in oil and gas) and then throw everything else at the loans.
Really though, I would get the minimum match in company 401k, have around 4 months salary saved, (or more if you are in oil and gas) and then throw everything else at the loans.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:53 am to Costanza
The plan is to contribute once I'm eligible. That will be at the one year mark of employment; about six months from now.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:56 am to MoonrakerElite
Use the next six months to build savings and pay off other debt or CCs, if any. Congrats on graduating and the new job.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:01 am to Costanza
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First, contribute up to your employer match for your 401k, second, get to 4-6 month emergency fund in savings, then throw everything you can at your loans.
I would generally take this route.
First off, you can never get back the time your are losing if you decide not to invest in your 401k.
Secondly, funding an emergency account is smart because you have no idea of what the future holds. When I got my first job right out of college I was laid off 10 months later (the 9/11 incident happened) and then it took me almost a year to find another job. Having some type of security blanket there for when times get hard will be comforting.
And third, if times do indeed gets hard, you can always request a forbearance on your loans to temporarily suspend them until you get back on your feet. I personally would only use this as a last resort because the loan will still accumulate interest.
Since your interest rate is relatively low, I would try to pay off any outstanding credit card bills first then move on to tackling the student loans.
More than likely it will take at least 10 years or more given the principal of the loan. I'm saying that because as you grow in your career, your circumstances will change over time. You might get married, have a kid, could possible get laid off, etc. As your circumstances change, you will have to make adjustments to accommodate them.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:07 am to MoonrakerElite
I am almost 5 years into my career but began in a similar position. My advice is to build up your savings now, while living is cheap. In a few years you could have a wife, kids, and need a new car - saving becomes more difficult even if salary increases. You already did the smart thing to refinance; at 4.9% your loans aren't cripplingly expensive, to the point where you need to throw everything you've got at them. I hate debt (especially when it isn't a Mastercraft or a Porsche) but anyone can get laid off and having a cushion is a wonderful feeling.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:00 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
^^what he/she said. Don't let the loan size freak you out; think of it as a house payment (for the education that now lives inside your brain). Build up an emergency cushion of a few more mos salary....and once you reach it, start paying more on the stu loans. Go look at a loan repayment calculator and see in black & what what it will do to add $30, $50, $200 or whatever to your loan repayment. It will make you feel better about things to see that those small amounts will add up over time.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:02 am to MoonrakerElite
That's a bummer man, but I'll be where your at in a few months.
I'll be graduating with a Master's in Geology but with about $85,000 in student loans.
I plan to do what some of the guys in here have recommended.
I'll be doing my best to move to either the Northshore or Houston, that way I can live with my mom or inlaws for a few months.
Pouring all my check into 401K, 6 month fund, saving for home downpayment and probably about 500 a month to student loans. Once I can move into a house, I'll be putting around 1500 a month to student loans, to get it paid off in around 5-6 years.
I'll be graduating with a Master's in Geology but with about $85,000 in student loans.
I plan to do what some of the guys in here have recommended.
I'll be doing my best to move to either the Northshore or Houston, that way I can live with my mom or inlaws for a few months.
Pouring all my check into 401K, 6 month fund, saving for home downpayment and probably about 500 a month to student loans. Once I can move into a house, I'll be putting around 1500 a month to student loans, to get it paid off in around 5-6 years.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:27 am to MoonrakerElite
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I've got about $130,000 in student loans, just refinanced to a 4.90% variable rate
Student loans are an above the line tax deductions. What that means is that you get the tax deduction regardless of how you choose to file taxes.
TL;DR: With your salary, your adjusted interest rate is ~75% of listed once you get a tax refund. 4.9%=3.675%
ETA: You need to also keep an eye out on interest rates. You could have a very wild swing in rates when they go up. If you have an emergency fund though, you could always use that if rising interest becomes a "problem"
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:04 am to MoonrakerElite
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I've got about $130,000 in student loans
Are you in Medicine doing a residency? The options change, if so. The White Coat Investor is a great resource if you are that field and want to learn about finances.
But if not, take advantage of your employers 401k match (if it exists) and throw everything else at you debt.
If you can make the equivalent of 1-2 extra payments a year, then you will substantially decrease the time & interest on the loan.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:00 pm to MoonrakerElite
I'm in almost the exact situation you're in with a few other variables shifted around, and I got some good advice in this thread. It seems to boil down to what interest rate threshold you believe you have, that being the rate of return you can attain through retirement or other investments. Keep in mind though that you need to be at full company match for 401K, because that's free money and typically makes the actual rate of return out compete almost all but the worst forms of debt (CC balance, particularity bad car loan, etc). My 401K seems to hover around 5% and the company matches half of my contributions up to 6%, so it's gonna have to be something pretty substantial interest-wise for me to feel like I need to dip into that. Additional retirement or investment is a little more straight forward, you want to earn more interest than what you're paying on your debt.
In short, the general strategy is to max 401K contributions, then look at the interest rates you're working on, and prioritize the highest ones. From there you can decide to get into additional retirement investment through a Roth or something similar, or if that money does you more good paying off something else. Your particular situation is confounded by the adjustable rate, so that's between you and the terms of your loan.
I'm in no way a financial expert, this is just the gist I got.
ETA: the important thing to keep in mind is that you're not deciding what to do about the whole loan, you're deciding what to do with that extra money you have at the end of the month. You want that money to work it's hardest for you. A huge loan can be intimidating, but you have to recognize it's the interest rate that's important, not the necessarily the balance.
In short, the general strategy is to max 401K contributions, then look at the interest rates you're working on, and prioritize the highest ones. From there you can decide to get into additional retirement investment through a Roth or something similar, or if that money does you more good paying off something else. Your particular situation is confounded by the adjustable rate, so that's between you and the terms of your loan.
I'm in no way a financial expert, this is just the gist I got.
ETA: the important thing to keep in mind is that you're not deciding what to do about the whole loan, you're deciding what to do with that extra money you have at the end of the month. You want that money to work it's hardest for you. A huge loan can be intimidating, but you have to recognize it's the interest rate that's important, not the necessarily the balance.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:11 pm to MoonrakerElite
thats a lot
i thought if you made payments for 20 straight years, your remaining balance is forgiven?
if so, id make the minimum payment for 20 years and then move on
student loans are a scam, do not let them control your life.
i thought if you made payments for 20 straight years, your remaining balance is forgiven?
if so, id make the minimum payment for 20 years and then move on
student loans are a scam, do not let them control your life.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:19 pm to MoonrakerElite
I would increase your savings to at least $12,000 so that you can pay on your student loans in that 3 month window if you should ever find yourself in that situation. Otherwise they will just continue to grow.
Like others have said. Put money in your 401k up to your company's limit match. Nowhere else can you instantly get 100% return on your money.
After that, put all money towards the loans. Variable can be scary. Rates have been near zero for close to a decade, and were raised this year already. That's a entirely different discussion, but it's also out of your control completely.
Good luck, that is a lot! My fiancee had about $120k just 3 years ago and she's cut it in half, so it can be done. Just takes determination.
Like others have said. Put money in your 401k up to your company's limit match. Nowhere else can you instantly get 100% return on your money.
After that, put all money towards the loans. Variable can be scary. Rates have been near zero for close to a decade, and were raised this year already. That's a entirely different discussion, but it's also out of your control completely.
Good luck, that is a lot! My fiancee had about $120k just 3 years ago and she's cut it in half, so it can be done. Just takes determination.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:32 pm to rocket31
It is a lot.
Thanks to everyone for the advice. Once I become 401k eligible, I'll take advantage of it up to the match.
To your point, there are some instances of forgiveness, but I'm not eligible because of the refinance. My minimum payment is locked in at 1,391. Assuming I don't make any more money for 10 years, it will be paid off. I did some numbers and if I put an extra $400 a month to them, I'll have them paid off sometime around the six year mark.
My ultimate goal is to get it to 5 years or under, though that will depend on how well my current job goes or if I leave for greener pastures at some point.
Thanks to everyone for the advice. Once I become 401k eligible, I'll take advantage of it up to the match.
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rocket31
To your point, there are some instances of forgiveness, but I'm not eligible because of the refinance. My minimum payment is locked in at 1,391. Assuming I don't make any more money for 10 years, it will be paid off. I did some numbers and if I put an extra $400 a month to them, I'll have them paid off sometime around the six year mark.
My ultimate goal is to get it to 5 years or under, though that will depend on how well my current job goes or if I leave for greener pastures at some point.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:43 pm to MoonrakerElite
gotcha, its perfectly within the law to use these loan forgiveness programs to your advantage
but people on this board will believe youre some criminal for doing so; makes absolutely zero sense
but people on this board will believe youre some criminal for doing so; makes absolutely zero sense
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:47 pm to MoonrakerElite
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My ultimate goal is to get it to 5 years or under, though that will depend on how well my current job goes or if I leave for greener pastures at some point.
This is an important thing though, paying it off quickly shouldn't be your goal just because it seems uncomfortable to be in debt. You don't want to neglect things that could potentially make you more money in the long run just so you're out from under that debt two years sooner. For instance, you rent now but if you could use that 400 a month to build a down payment on a house then get a mortgage at a low fixed rate, you're getting the rent monkey off your back and building equity.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:50 pm to rocket31
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thats a lot
i thought if you made payments for 20 straight years, your remaining balance is forgiven?
if so, id make the minimum payment for 20 years and then move on
student loans are a scam, do not let them control your life
To clarify, the forgiven amount is taxable under those programs.
Under Public Service (10 years) the forgiven amount is not taxable.
And yes, I agree. A person should choose the most economical route. If the math doesn't add up for full repayment, go to lesser payment/ forgiveness and pay the tax.
I've seen the downvotes, because of the "you took out the loan" crowd. What that crowd fails to realize is it isn't the student's fault the contracts have been rewritten to allow forgiveness, and in a capitalist free market contracts rule baby. You should always exercise your contractual rights if you believe you should.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 12:53 pm
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