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Retirement help
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:18 pm
Switching jobs... I have a total of a little over $24,000 in employer retirement plan. $10,000 is my contributions and $14,000 from them. We purchased land to build our forever home about 6 months ago.
We paid $66,000 for the land and currently owe $43,000. Goal was to get the land paid down as low as possible... At least to $10,000 -15,000 before we start to build.
Should we use the 10,000 I contributed to my retirement plan and pay down the land to build sooner? then, roll the $14,000 into Roth? Or roll it all into Roth, as using that $10,000 is just dumb?
Current situation... Living with inlaws. House sold faster than we imagined. Any serious advice would be appreciated.
We paid $66,000 for the land and currently owe $43,000. Goal was to get the land paid down as low as possible... At least to $10,000 -15,000 before we start to build.
Should we use the 10,000 I contributed to my retirement plan and pay down the land to build sooner? then, roll the $14,000 into Roth? Or roll it all into Roth, as using that $10,000 is just dumb?
Current situation... Living with inlaws. House sold faster than we imagined. Any serious advice would be appreciated.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:10 pm to WhoDatTigerStripes
Never early withdraw
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:14 pm to WhoDatTigerStripes
quote:
using that $10,000 is just dumb
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:38 pm to WhoDatTigerStripes
No where near enough info.
Age?
How much you have in retirement?
That 10k, pre tax or post tax (traditional or ROTH 401k)
Why is 10-15k is your goal? You need that much price difference to get to 80% L-to-V on the house?
Age?
How much you have in retirement?
That 10k, pre tax or post tax (traditional or ROTH 401k)
Why is 10-15k is your goal? You need that much price difference to get to 80% L-to-V on the house?
Posted on 4/4/15 at 7:53 am to WhoDatTigerStripes
No, only withdraw from IRA for life or limb, however living with the inlaws maybe close. You will forever loose the power of time on your investment. Assuming living with the inlwas you are saving some money vs house note, utilities, etc, contribute all of that in addition to your normal contributions/ notes toward your lot
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:15 am to Odinson
quote:
using that $10,000 is just dumb
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:29 am to Volvagia
27 and 26.
That's all I have in retirement. The 10k is pre tax, 403b is what it has been going into.
Yes, without touching our savings (10k) that'll put us at 80% and keep the mortgage monthly payment decent.
If you recommend rolling all of it over, which Roth would you recommend?
Sorry we are both idiots with this stuff but trying to learn more. Our careers are in the medical field so this stuff is unfortunately, completely foreign.
That's all I have in retirement. The 10k is pre tax, 403b is what it has been going into.
Yes, without touching our savings (10k) that'll put us at 80% and keep the mortgage monthly payment decent.
If you recommend rolling all of it over, which Roth would you recommend?
Sorry we are both idiots with this stuff but trying to learn more. Our careers are in the medical field so this stuff is unfortunately, completely foreign.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:46 am to WhoDatTigerStripes
whats your total income yearly?
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:58 am to Double Oh
Combined about 120k. She's in grad school, so she's only working part time. Graduates in 1 year, her salary will double. House we are building is one we can afford with our current salaries.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:28 am to WhoDatTigerStripes
Do not tap into your 401K.
I would start paying off the land mortgage as soon as possible provided you dont have any other bills like credit card debt, student loans, etc , etc. With a 120K income you should be able to knock that out in a year or two.
I would not start building till the land is paid off.
I would start paying off the land mortgage as soon as possible provided you dont have any other bills like credit card debt, student loans, etc , etc. With a 120K income you should be able to knock that out in a year or two.
I would not start building till the land is paid off.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:38 am to Double Oh
Thanks for your advice. We don't have any other debt. We pay cash each semester for her schooling... That's the side I was leaning toward, she brought up using the 10k for the land. We will go that route.
Just wanted another opinion. Thanks. Do you recommend we roll over into traditional or Roth ira?
Just wanted another opinion. Thanks. Do you recommend we roll over into traditional or Roth ira?
Posted on 4/4/15 at 10:01 am to WhoDatTigerStripes
If you roll it into a Roth you will pay taxes on the amount since 401ks are pre tax contributions.
Unless it was a Roth 401k to avoid taxes you should roll into a traditional ira. If there is a way to avoid taxes and roll into A roth ira I would love to know.
Unless it was a Roth 401k to avoid taxes you should roll into a traditional ira. If there is a way to avoid taxes and roll into A roth ira I would love to know.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 10:29 am to tigersnipen
Ok thanks, that's something else I didn't know.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:00 pm to WhoDatTigerStripes
So you gross 10K a month so you probably taking home 7-7500 a month no reason you cant fork down 3K a month on the land and have it paid off in 14 months with no problem. Congrats on the no debt too.
Good Luck...
Good Luck...
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:42 am to WhoDatTigerStripes
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WhoDatTigerStripes
quote:
We don't have any other debt. We pay cash each semester for her schooling...
Newbie question...I'm guessing tuition is a substantial amount each semester for medical school, would they be better off paying this via credit card, then paying off with the cash quickly to gain rewards?
Should they be setting up an account such as a Betterment, DRIP, Loyal3 or WiseBanyan type account, depositing that money in so that it grows, paying tuition with a rewards credit card, and then pulling it out and paying off a credit card for the rewards?
Are either of these scenarios worth the effort?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:20 pm to NoleTideNole
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I'm guessing tuition is a substantial amount each semester for medical school, would they be better off paying this via credit card, then paying off with the cash quickly to gain rewards?
This would be great, but I am currently in grad school at LSU and there's a fee you have to pay if you pay with a credit card that doesn't make this worth it. I know OP wife probably doesn't go to LSU, but I'd imagine most colleges/universities are the same way.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 7:44 pm to WhoDatTigerStripes
quote:
using that $10,000 is just dumb?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:40 pm to WhoDatTigerStripes
Find a place to rent, move out of your inlaws' place, then start paying off your land loan (unless the interest rate is super low--what's the interest rate?). After that, you can start saving for a down payment.
DO NOT withdraw from your 401k, IRA, or Roth IRA. You will lose a lot of money in the long run.
And please, don't sacrifice your retirement plan contributions for saving for your down payment. If you can't save for retirement AND save for your down payment, it might not be a good idea to build a house. Houses are usually not good investments, despite what most people think.
edit: when I say they aren't good investments, I mean they aren't compared to using the money for a down payment to invest in tax-advantaged retirement accounts. Unless your rental market sucks, renting is usually cheaper and lets you save more for retirement. Houses are money and time pits.
edit2: just noticed that you guys have a really good income assuming you don't live in a major city. You guys should be in really good shape, just don't rush things. You're young and you can wait a few years to do things right.
My advice is to commit to renting for a while so you can pay off that lot loan and then save up for the house. You should also be able to contribute up to your employer's 401k match, and hopefully max out at least one of your Roth IRAs.
Please don't buy any brand new cars or anything like that. Don't add any debt you don't absolutely need for the house. Keep an emergency fund. Check out some mortgage calculators so you can see the huge differences between a 5% down payment, a 10% down payment, a 20% down payment, and a 30% down payment.
And maybe most importantly, read a book about financial planning!
DO NOT withdraw from your 401k, IRA, or Roth IRA. You will lose a lot of money in the long run.
And please, don't sacrifice your retirement plan contributions for saving for your down payment. If you can't save for retirement AND save for your down payment, it might not be a good idea to build a house. Houses are usually not good investments, despite what most people think.
edit: when I say they aren't good investments, I mean they aren't compared to using the money for a down payment to invest in tax-advantaged retirement accounts. Unless your rental market sucks, renting is usually cheaper and lets you save more for retirement. Houses are money and time pits.
edit2: just noticed that you guys have a really good income assuming you don't live in a major city. You guys should be in really good shape, just don't rush things. You're young and you can wait a few years to do things right.
My advice is to commit to renting for a while so you can pay off that lot loan and then save up for the house. You should also be able to contribute up to your employer's 401k match, and hopefully max out at least one of your Roth IRAs.
Please don't buy any brand new cars or anything like that. Don't add any debt you don't absolutely need for the house. Keep an emergency fund. Check out some mortgage calculators so you can see the huge differences between a 5% down payment, a 10% down payment, a 20% down payment, and a 30% down payment.
And maybe most importantly, read a book about financial planning!
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 9:50 pm
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