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Per Bloomberg: Halliburton and Baker Hughes deal is OFF

Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted by abitabrewed4LSU
Houston, TX
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:27 pm to
3.5 billion termination fee....ouch.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:32 pm to
I guess that allows GE to come in and swoop them up.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:41 pm to
Why are those fees always set so high? It's nuts that they owe that much in cash and the other company didn't do anything
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 7:44 pm to
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d the other company didn't do anything

Except take market share and prevent us from restructuring due to the oil fallout.
Posted by cstev12
Houston
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:15 pm to
3.5 Billion termination fee on top of the millions upon millions paid the last 18 months trying to close the deal. Embarrassing.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:40 pm to
As if they took $3.5b in market share
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:40 pm to
I didn't suggest they did.
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:14 am to
Your suggestion is that the deal was a setback for the company due to market share being stolen.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 6:46 am to
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Why are those fees always set so high?


Often used by companies to get free money when they know the deal will sour or it won't be approved.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 6:54 am to
It's not necessarily a "market share" issue, more of a company valuation issue. Baker Hughes took a ~30% hit in stock value since this started as opposed to Halliburton at half that (15%). This has left Baker de-valued big time. It may very well put Halliburton in the same position in the near future, but from the start, this leaves Baker weaker.

Only saving grace for Hal may be that people view it as cutting their losses and that losing 3.5B is better than taking on a company paying 78 bucks a share when it's now only worth 46. But it still is a very bad situation. I think Baker and Hal are both going to be getting some new CEO's in the next few months. What a waste of money for both companies at such a difficult time for the industry.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 6:55 am to
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Why are those fees always set so high? It's nuts that they owe that much in cash and the other company didn't do anything


That's the terms of a non-disclosure agreement. You grant another firm to look under your skirt and learn virtually everything about your business. You're due something if they look that hard, know that much about you, then go back to being a competitor.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:57 am to
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That's the terms of a non-disclosure agreement. You grant another firm to look under your skirt and learn virtually everything about your business. You're due something if they look that hard, know that much about you, then go back to being a competitor.


This.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:58 am to
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I think Baker and Hal are both going to be getting some new CEO's in the next few months

it won't be months.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:22 am to
Hopefully for those companies it's a quick process. I just see it taking a little time to find someone new, etc. I'm sending my resume to both letting them know I'm available.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48950 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:57 am to
As a former employee, I am never surprised by the stupidity of Halliburton higher ups, beginning with the Dresser fiasco
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:55 am to
Did they really think creating a duopoly between Schlumberger and Halliburton wouldn't raise some eyebrows in the Antitrust circle?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48950 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:07 am to
They expanded with the distinct vision of oil never being under 100 a barrel and gas at 10.00 MCF, they both built huge new expansions in Shreveport/Bossier
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:25 pm to
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Did they really think creating a duopoly between Schlumberger and Halliburton wouldn't raise some eyebrows in the Antitrust circle?


Well sure, but it isn't exactly fair to say Halliburton cannot be as big as Schlumberger just because they got big first. Assuming that was a hurdle for the deal, it sucks the DOJ penalized Halliburton because of Schlumberger.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12577 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:39 pm to
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They expanded with the distinct vision of oil never being under 100 a barrel and gas at 10.00 MCF, they both built huge new expansions in Shreveport/Bossier
I doubt that... Those yards were that big b/c the Haynesville was running 100 rigs... they needed it to keep up with demand. Both companies did not want to lose market share.
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