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re: Paying yourself as an employee
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:43 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:43 pm to I B Freeman
Ok, to make this easy then.
Let's say I make $117,000. I pay myself $50,000 "reasonable salary". I don't have to pay 15% on $67,000? Is there a catch to this? Why wouldn't everyone do this?
Eta: And by everyone, I mean people with an LLC or S-Corp.
Let's say I make $117,000. I pay myself $50,000 "reasonable salary". I don't have to pay 15% on $67,000? Is there a catch to this? Why wouldn't everyone do this?
Eta: And by everyone, I mean people with an LLC or S-Corp.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:15 pm to Sho Nuff
quote:Too late for 2014, but you have until March 15 to make the election for 2015. The election is made using Form 2553.
When do I have to make that status change to be able to do this? I'm too late to do it now for 2014 taxes, correct?
quote:You will still pay income tax on $150,000 in either scenario, but you will avoid paying Social Security and Medicare taxes on a portion electing S-corporation status. You need to discuss with your tax advisor how this would apply to your specific circumstances, and how much benefit you could realistically achieve.
So who pays the taxes on that $100k in your scenario?
The caution about income from personal services is a real one. If your income is from personal services you might be better off being taxed as a disregarded entity and being able to contribute more to retirement.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:49 pm to Poodlebrain
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The caution about income from personal services is a real one. If your income is from personal services you might be better off being taxed as a disregarded entity and being able to contribute more to retirement.
I am an independent contractor for a company. That's considered PSI? So not a good idea to do this S-Corp idea?
I appreciate your help on this as I have been curious about this since my friend told me about it. It seems off But I'd love to do it. Let me know what you think.
quote:
you might be better off being taxed as a disregarded entity and being able to contribute more to retirement.
Would you mid explaining this just a little?
Eta: Looked up PSI, says selling goods is not PSI, so I would guess I'm ok.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:40 am to Poodlebrain
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In order to get any benefit from paying yourself as an employee your LLC has to elect to be taxed as a S-corporation, and you have to pay the shareholder-employees reasonable compensation. If the shareholder-employees are paid reasonable compensation, then the net income from the S-corporation will not be treated as self-employment income subject to self-employment tax. It is therefore possible to limit the amount of tax paid for Social Security to just the amount of compensation.
i was wondering when we'd have a non-"guess" answer.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:17 am to McLemore
My company is an LLC which files as an S-Corp.
As poodle stated any profits I don't pay myself are still taxed to me but I don't have to pay the extra personal stuff (medicare, SS) unless I take the money as salary or as a disbursement.
As poodle stated any profits I don't pay myself are still taxed to me but I don't have to pay the extra personal stuff (medicare, SS) unless I take the money as salary or as a disbursement.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:03 am to VABuckeye
So what do you do with the rest of it if you don't take it as income? Do you just have that much in 'business expenses'?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:33 am to LSUGUMBO
Nope. Try to minimize what shows as profit and pay taxes on it. I'm not going to weaken my company by draining every penny from it. I do maximize HSA, 401K, etc. to reduce my burden.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 2:18 pm to VABuckeye
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Nope. Try to minimize what shows as profit and pay taxes on it. I'm not going to weaken my company by draining every penny from it. I do maximize HSA, 401K, etc. to reduce my burden.
So the net difference from what you paid yourself "reasonable salary" and what you actually made you put into HSA, 401k, etc? And that's how to not pay the 15% on that net difference? It has to go back into the company and not into your pocket?
So I can't just take all the money I make and put it into my bank, as an example, and just pay myself a "reasonable salary" to save 15% on $xxx, correct?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:55 pm to Sho Nuff
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So the net difference from what you paid yourself "reasonable salary" and what you actually made you put into HSA, 401k, etc? And that's how to not pay the 15% on that net difference? It has to go back into the company and not into your pocket?
So I can't just take all the money I make and put it into my bank, as an example, and just pay myself a "reasonable salary" to save 15% on $xxx, correct?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:41 pm to Sho Nuff
You can always take money out as a tax-free distribution if you have basis. This is where the reasonable salary is important.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:42 pm to krehn11
Until you file your income taxes. Then that distribution isn't so tax free.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:47 pm to Sho Nuff
A reasonable salary for what you do and the type of company yo own may be different from my situation. I pay myself as a W-2 employee because the company is treated as an S Corp for tax purposes. I also take disbursements and pay taxes on those at tax time.
The 15% (isn't actually that number but close enough) is met during the year so I don't have to pay that on disbursements.
The 15% (isn't actually that number but close enough) is met during the year so I don't have to pay that on disbursements.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:54 pm to VABuckeye
How isn't it tax free? You are paying taxes on s corp earnings whether you take the money or not.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:22 pm to jsquardjj
I believe I would drive an hour and pay poodlebrain a visit...I have seen him dish out some stellar advice on here over the years...
Posted on 1/19/15 at 7:31 am to krehn11
You answered the question yourself. I pay taxes on profits whether I leave them in the company or pay myself in the form of a disbursement. Neither avenue is tax free.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 1:02 pm to VABuckeye
The disbursement of money is not a taxable event.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 1:14 pm to krehn11
Correct. The taxable event is the profit, not the distribution.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:00 pm to krehn11
Correct. However if it gets reported as income then I pay taxes on it in April anyway. There's no free ride. But no SS and Medicare.
This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 6:03 pm
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