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Paging Crypto people, Blockfi pays 8.6% interest on USDC - what’s the catch?

Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:08 am
Posted by LSU in Frisco TX
In the Green
Member since Oct 2006
752 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:08 am
So I’m considering moving my savings account from discover which pays .5% over to BlockFi USDC. They say they are paying 8.6% with no minimum and no maximum.

Furthermore, wouldn’t this be a too-good-to-be-true place to park your retirement asset that you wanted to draw an income from?

What am I not seeing here?
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:27 am to
No dick measuring- I keep a significant sum of money at Blockfi.

It is not FDIC insured like the first 250k in your bank account.

95% of funds are cold stored with Gemini (winklevoss boys). They have incredible security and undergo soc 2 audits. Gemini is also insured against loss.

They operate just like any other traditional bank where they engage in risk activities to generate profit. Here's the difference.

Instead of JP Morgan making 17% on your assets then paying thousands of staff and putting their name on class A buildings then giving you the .05 % crumbs. Blockfi operates virtually with a better Tech stack and splits the profit with you.

They have never had a loan loss to date. Their primary functions are loaning money to institutional traders in over collateralized situations. They initiate margin calls before things get close to costing them money.

Would I park 100 percent of my wealth there? frick no, but I would never put 100 percent of my wealth anywhere!

One other item of note is they can change the interest rate every month although usdc has been 8.6% for some time.

Good Luck




Posted by LSU in Frisco TX
In the Green
Member since Oct 2006
752 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:45 am to
I appreciate that, misterc.

Most of my assets would not be with BlockFi. They’re still traditionally allocated. I could potentially put more in there at retirement but that’s 20+ years away. It’ll give the industry a lot more years of precedent for us to all learn from. For now I think I’ll just move my savings account which is a small sum in the big picture but it’s not insignificant to earn 8.6% on.

This is pretty exciting.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:50 am to
yea I've been doing this for awhile although I'm mostly bitcoin and not usdc or stablecoins. people think I'm crazy when i tell them about it and possibly it's a bubble? but I haven't had any issues

in general id say blockfi is very safe but i suppose you never know

i also earn interest at nexo, if you wanted to diversify your holdings a little bit
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:54 am to
I'm ignorant to this and crypto in general. Can I simply open an account, link it to a current traditional account, transfer $$ there and let it sit?
Looked over thier page and triggered more questions than answers.
Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7137 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:57 am to
You’ll need to choose the asset you want to hold and I believe they can only handle $500ach deposits at a time. I think per day but would need to confirm. USDC and GUSD are stable coins and pay the most interest . If you want to do it quicker and in one fell swoop you could deposit to Coinbase and buy USDC then send to BlockFi but you will lose some money in trading and withdrawal fees

I would be hesitant to recommend this to anyone that does not already have some understanding of crypto assets
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:09 am to
indeed. it's not complicated but i can see how it might produce anxiety the first time

I'd watch a youtube tutorial and just follow the steps

coinbase pro -> usdc -> blockfi would be the most efficient method
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

So I’m considering moving my savings account from discover which pays .5% over to BlockFi USDC. They say they are paying 8.6% with no minimum and no maximum.

Furthermore, wouldn’t this be a too-good-to-be-true place to park your retirement asset that you wanted to draw an income from?

What am I not seeing here?


Any chance this is a Ponzi scheme? It seems Bernie Madoff did something similar by paying high interest rates. He used new investments to pay existing investors.

Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11808 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Any chance this is a Ponzi scheme?

No. Every crypto lender offers similar rates. It isn’t without risk though. You can get insurance through nexus mutual if you are concerned
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:26 pm to
Yep and if you want to get cheaper insurance, buy wnxm for a discount (10-20%), unwrap to nxm to use for their insurance.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4774 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:31 pm to
Buy Polkadot on Kracken and stake it. Earns 12%, and can be unstaked at any time. Polkadot up 212% just this month. I’ve done this, and it’s worked out well for me.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6437 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:50 pm to
Wow... It's like all of you are speaking another language... I need to get out more..
Posted by coonasstiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
96 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:10 pm to
would love to throw some extra cash in something like this and earn that kind of rate but of course its asking for SSN...you guys arent worried about giving your social security number to this?

Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:11 pm to
The non know you’re customer places are riskier and offering higher rates.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40488 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:13 pm to
If it sounds too good to be true it probably is
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

would love to throw some extra cash in something like this and earn that kind of rate but of course its asking for SSN...you guys arent worried about giving your social security number to this?



Why would I, You can buy my social and pretty much anyones for 20 bucks on the dark web. Anything you do that is legit will have KYC and AML. Banks, etc, They are going to send you a 1099 for all that interest they are paying you. Lock your credit and don't stress about it



Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 8:13 pm to
you're going to be really in disbelief once your local chase bank starts doing it
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2411 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 8:30 pm to
If it sounds too good to be true..it probably is...that being said from one PT Barnum...There's a sucker born every minute..
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