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MT: When do you decide to max out your 401k?

Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:28 pm
At what point in your yearly planning does maxing out the 401k become feasible? What are some financial goals you aim to achieve first before locking money away in a 401k?

I have done enough saving the past 2 years to build up an adequate emergency fund and max out my Roth IRA. I contribute 10% of my salary to my 401k which my company matches the first 3%. I want to make sure I am putting my money aside wisely before locking it all up into my 401k.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:42 pm to
If you're maxing the Roth and getting the full company match, great. If you're asking how much more is it wise to contribute to the 401(k), my answer is that unless you think you're going to large unexpected expenses beyond the ability of your Roth and/or emergency fund to deal with, sock away as much as you can in the 401(k). If you're put enough in that it starts to make you cut back on expenses, even better.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6078 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 5:06 pm to
I put a lot of money into a 401K, basically max it out, but sometimes I wonder...the deferral is nice, but you end up paying cap gains at ordinary rates.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 5:36 pm to
Consider alternative investments to your 401k. You just get the option of a handful of funds, and there's supposedly lots of fees that get passed on to you. They're valuable for the free money your company gives you, but that's only the first 3%. A financial advisor can help show you all that's out there beyond the limitations of a 401k.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9181 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:37 pm to
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but sometimes I wonder...the deferral is nice, but you end up paying cap gains at ordinary rates


And when you are retired you may be in a lower tax bracket than working and/or in a tax friendly state with high retirement income exclusions. In taxable, you will pay your highest marginal rate in the year you earned the money, then ongoing dividend and/or cap gains rates if you sell, etc. Planning isn't easy. If you go with tax efficient or tax managed investments in taxable it's not the worst thing in the world, it really depends on your future income and ongoing tax situation.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:14 pm to
Thanks for the response. For this year alone I cannot foresee an expense coming up that will hurt me beyond repair. It is more of a fear for me putting that much money aside, simply because it is uncharted territory for me. In reality, I really do not have any better ideas to do with it for the time being.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4180 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:27 pm to
My company matches us(40%) all the way up to the max so I try to completely max that before contributing to anything else. I'm taking on some additional risk by saving less cash, but I think it's worth the free 40% return.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:32 pm to
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My company matches us(40%) all the way up to the max


I think at that point, I wouldn't hesitate to max it out. I will bite the bullet tomorrow and increase my contribution for the year and see how things stand in the spring.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

You just get the option of a handful of funds


Depends on the plan. Mine has a "personal choice" account that lets me have my money at Schwab for a small annual fee and I can invest in anything Schwab offers, which is damn near everything.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2820 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:06 pm to
One way to eventually max out your 401k is to increase your contributions by 1 to 2% every year at annual raise time (assuming you get one). Naturally this works better if your young and is relatively painless. Some plans can be set up to do this automatically.
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