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Money from flood insurance reported as income?

Posted on 12/19/16 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3703 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 3:52 pm
If have have some funds leftover from my insurance settlement after repairs for flood damage do I have to report this money as income?
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2719 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 4:24 pm to
It is supposed to be reported as additional income
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4301 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

do I have to report this money as income?


I used a Chalmatian accountant who didn't think so; I got called by an auditor who did. It was an expensive mistake.

It is income unless you spend it all on the damage.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 5:49 pm to
Yes you do...

but why not put the money back into your house?
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:41 pm to
Go load up on Visa prepaid cards for possible future repairs due to the flood.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:10 am to
I don't get how it could be. It is defined as money given to you to cover a loss. So if you lost value, and said money is given to replace value, then you break even. Independent of whether it is in the form of cash or home features. I'm not saying that's how it is, but it's how it should be. Not mention that you could possibly show that you offset the claim by the premiums you've paid (i.e. you've paid 20k in premiums over your life for a 15k payout). I realize that's not over a single year, but the fact is, you aren't deducting your insurance from taxes each year, so technically it's a net loss.

But, the government's gonna get its money I guess.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3703 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:44 am to
I guess could always just be perpetually repairing my home or never really be finished with the repairs.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:30 pm to
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I don't get how it could be


Insurance is supposed to make you whole. Not benefit from it... make you whole. In most cases, it doesn't even do that.

1) If you do a lot of the work yourself, you could end up with money left over. That money is not being put back into the property, you are more than whole... so you owe money on the difference.

2)
quote:

So if you lost value, and said money is given to replace value, then you break even


For their to be money left over, either #1 applies, or, you got more money than lost value. This is rare, but not impossible, and the only time I've ever seen it "in real life" is flood claims.

If more than 50% of your home is damaged from flood, it is treated as a total loss. So, the total rec'd could easily be more than the amount of damage. In addition, flood claims can be at replacement value, so that can bring more money into the pot.

To avoid taxes, just put the money back into the house. Get nicer stuff, whatever.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

If you do a lot of the work yourself, you could end up with money left over


can you claim your time/labor as an expense?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:42 pm to
But the reality of it is, you could get an insurance check for having high end stuff, then you decide I'll replace it with low end crap. The net worth of your home would be less, but the total value to you is the same. Just that now, some of it is cash, instead of equity. I can see how that is an issue when carrying a mortgage and a 3rd party interest in the value of your home. But between you and an insurer, it shouldn't be about what you what you actually paid, it's about what it's worth. Like you said, the point of insurance is to make you whole. The point of income tax is to tax you on income. I can maybe even see the insurance agency having an issue, but to the tax man, the insurance company made you whole financially. Therefore, net zero.

Again, I know that's not how it works. It's just off to me.

This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 12/25/16 at 11:11 pm to
Be sure to file a casualty loss on your flooded house.
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